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01-04-2009, 02:03 AM
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Protesting Israel - What Good Does it Do?
Really, I should be asking what good does protesting in general do? In light of the current exchanges between Israel and Palestine, that's all that's on the news. The conflict, and the protestors.
I don't care what your stance on the issue is, but do these people (protesting against Israel) think they're actually accomplishing something? Seems to me they're just simple attention-whores using this to try and get themselves propped up into the spotlight. I read this comment someone posted on their Facebook page (one of those "friend of a friend of a friend of a friend" type things) after she got back from a local protest here in San Diego, and her words were "That was great, guys! It's amazing what a bunch of us Arabs can accomplish!".  Did you really actually "accomplish" anything? There's still fightin' goin' on, so no, you didn't. If you really wanted to do something about it, get off your [fourth point of contact] and actually do something to support what you believe. Clogging public areas, yelling and waiving signs for a few hours doesn't do anything worth a damn, except piss people off ('cause more than likely, you're gettin' in people's way) - especially when you're not even on the same continent where the fighting is. If you're going to protest, at least protest in an area that's frequented by high-echelon politicans (i.e. the White House). Maybe they'll hear you, and do something about it. (Isn't that why you're doing this in the first place?) Protesting on Main St., USA doesn't help. (Nor do I think protesting period helps, but that's beside the point.) (I ruled out politely contacting their local political leaders, because they probably wouldn't be able to comprehend that idea in the first place.) Stupid people. </rant over>
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01-04-2009, 02:25 AM
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Did they even know why they were protesting? Did they think that the nice-never-do-wrong-super-duper Arabs were in the right? Did they not know that after constant rocket and mortar attacks every single day of the year makes people angry? I just don't get why they(protestors) would even protest when they(Hamas) have been launching rockets and mortars into Israel every damn day. I'm glad Israel is taking action. I was watching the news the other day and one Hamas leader said, "This is a fight to the death." You know what, let's fulfill their wishes. I will accept temporary raised gas prices if it means elimination of a terrorist organization.
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01-04-2009, 02:30 AM
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Debating the topic of the protest wasn't really my intention, rather, the protesters themselves - however, I highly doubt any of them (especially those in our country) really actually know anything about the situation. I don't care what the issue is, I really think protesters in general have no clue. Like I said in my initial post, if you really, really cared enough to want to change it (rather than essentially scream "Arab power!" - in this case), they need to get up off their rear-ends and do something. Eh. YMMV.
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01-04-2009, 02:36 AM
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Sorry, maybe I was just venting in your thread.
 I do agree that protesting in average America won't help. Protesting in the U.S. at all probably won't help. I just want it to stay a Middle East matter and hope we don't get really involved. Hopefully we will just send money and bombs(we sure aren't allowed to use them).
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01-04-2009, 11:18 AM
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Protesting spreads a message, especially when the media covers the demonstration. In theory, this could be a powerful tool. One could possibly unite a large group of people, spread out all over the world in some cases, to stand up and do something about whatever's pissing them off.
However, the reality is that protesters are not generally the types of people who will do something productive. The effort that's required to write misspelled slogans on poster board is almost too much for the average protester. (I'll never forget the photo of a protester with a sign that referred to the opposing group as "morans.") They have just enough motivation to send out the message, but most of the people who are "moved" by this are barely capable of waving their own signs. People who really care are often already doing something productive about the problem, and tend to be better informed than the sign-waving "morans" (cough, cough) anyway. In other words: No, protesting doesn't tend to do anything useful, at least as far as I've seen.
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01-04-2009, 11:51 AM
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I did not search it just becasue he was Arab, it is protocall in my store.
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01-04-2009, 12:16 PM
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01-04-2009, 01:02 PM
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As I stressed earlier yesterday I just got my computerf[incorrect space] rom the shop and have not had the chance to put Word on it[space](so I cannot use spellcheck (note: there are ways to do spellcheck without MS Word, try iespell.com)). It had a lot to do with the topic, it said look at what a bunch of us Arabs can do, when I wrote about what happened at work yesterday I wrote how sterotypes can just knock down all that work.
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01-04-2009, 02:55 PM
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I'm sorry. I forgot that MS Word is the only way to learn, and properly apply, the basic concepts of our language. What was your excuse before your computer died?
This utter lack of attention to detail makes it difficult - nearly impossible, really - to decipher meaning. I have a good idea of what you're trying to say, but I'm not going to do the work that you aren't willing to do yourself. If you want me to receive your message, you have to make an effort to give me something that I don't have to mentally edit and revise several times to begin to comprehend.
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01-04-2009, 08:04 PM
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   Protests can be powerful acts to promote a change, stop an act that is disagreeable to the party involved, or allow said group to stay in accordance of their ideals and thought processes. Lets define protest according to Webster's NewWorld Dictionary. 1. to state positively affirm solemnly; assert. 2. to make objection to; speak strongly against. As a noun, a document formally objecting to something. Now that we have the definition of protest in our minds, lets take something that I doubt anyone here may ever object to: our Declaration of Independence. It is a document formally objecting to something, that is colonial rule of the people occupying the areas, that resulted in a positive change (that is unless you disapprove of how our nation came to be, which is fine if you do). Quote:
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I would just like to hear your ideas of 'actually doing something,' as opposed to doing something like taking part in a protest. Quote:
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As to the actual situation, not the protests that is, I fully support Israel's response. They are taking the situation and putting them in control. They are no longer allowing these terrorists to deny their people of life. It is to my belief that the only way to rid terrorists from operating is not to capture them or let them agree to cease-fire, but to decimate them. Kill them where they stand and kill anyone who supports the murders of the innocent. Ideology that has been branded into the minds of men who may or may not understand what they are doing is not something that a document or talk can rid, but I can guarantee that a bullet to said mind will. As to the protests, let them protest. It is their idea, and as long as the protests do not manifest into anything short of death, what's the problem? What are these people doing that angers people so much? A few minutes late to work or dropping your kids off at school? I think you've got a viable excuse. I don't agree with what they are protesting and believe that some may want only to feel a belonging to potential change. And I fully believe that some of these people may believe that situations such as these can be solved with peace, and you know what? I admire that because my mind does not always think like that. If we didn't have those kind of people, people like me may have to make decisions that could vastly alter situations for better or for worse. It's almost a checks and balances, but for your conscience. Of course there is that one little thing about all of this: The side of the terrorists. What I mean by this is that they aren't terrorists in their eyes, they are progressive elements to promote a change in the only way they know how. To them, we may be the terrorists... And I'm not a sympathizer either, I'm a realist.
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