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Old 12-08-2008, 04:57 PM
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I came across this article on the internet, and the complete ignorance of it appalled me.

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With the unpopularity of the current US war effort, the flaws and injustices of Marine Corps recruiting are exposed on a daily basis. Marine Corps recruiters will do everything and anything possible, including lying, to get your kid to join up while they’re still in high school and too young and stupid to know what is best for them. They only have one goal: to get your kid to sign up for the Marines. Ethics do not matter to them. Honesty does not matter to them. As a parent, you had best beware.

Of course, if Marine Corps recruiters are bad, Marine Corps drill instructors are awful. You have to remember that in any army, basic training is one third physical conditioning and two thirds brainwashing. This is especially true in an elite branch of the Army such as the Marine Corps. Marine Corps drill instructors are there to break you down and then build you back up. They will humiliate you, abuse you, work you to the point of physical exhaustion, and do anything that they can to strip your old personality away. They do this with the goal of ‘making you into a Marine’. What this really means is destroying the person who was there before, and putting a slavishly obedient and violent killing machine in its place. They rarely succeed in doing this completely, but it is certainly the goal.

I’m not saying that a Marine Corps drill instructor is necessarily an evil person. Many Marine Corps drill instructors are nice in their personal lives. It is just that they serve an institution whose goal is to make you into a violent fighting machine. Marine Corps drill instructors, and the Marines in general, do not need you to be able to think. They do not need you to be able to morally question and decide what is right for yourself. All that they need you to be able to do is to obey and to kill. This is a Marine Corps drill instructors job: to turn you into a soldier who is good at obeying, and good at killing.

Of course, every branch of the Army is like this to some degree. The problem is that the Marines are the most elite fighting force. They are sent in first, so they need to have the best instincts and the least reservation about killing. This is why Marine Corps drill instructors are more brutal and more vicious than most drill instructors. They have to be.

I have tried commenting on this, but I always get an HTTP error message.
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Old 12-08-2008, 05:02 PM
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Are you really so naive as to be appalled by ignorance on the internet?
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Old 12-08-2008, 06:30 PM
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...or intentional disinformation playing on the ignorance of others?

Given your youth, it's possible you've never run across this nonsense before, but it's lifted almost word-for-word from a long-gone (and unmourned) website that trashed Vietnam Veterans into the early 90s. Whomever is irresponsible also has you at a disadvantage: No matter how you respond, it's difficult to prove a negative, and while you may have some limited facts at your disposal, the writer has unlimited 'imagination'.
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Old 12-08-2008, 10:29 PM
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You can tell it is hogwash as the writer calles the Marine Corps a part of the Army!!
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...or intentional disinformation playing on the ignorance of others?
That crossed my mind even before I clicked on the links at the bottom of the page. One took me to a hotel in Dubai and another looks like what I might consider a religious cult.
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Old 12-09-2008, 10:38 AM
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There is no point arguing with these types .Just make the most outrageous statement you like and leave while they are stunned.
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Old 12-11-2008, 09:24 PM
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I wouldn't expect any less.

Our final exercise was an live fire ambush executed upon a bus full of Catholic children in Northern Ireland at 0845 hrs as it was drawing up outside a school. I'll never forget watching little Mary Monaghan's head explode, or little Joseph O'Reilly pissing blood on the floor and twitching like the proverbial spakker, or the death of the driver, who also happened to be a stereotypical Irish priest who even as he died was downing single malt and fondling alter boys... Oh yeah and the beds gave us nightmares (mine had a nasty spring).

Just like Woody said, outragerous...

I think this is one of those advertising sites that posts stuff it culls from elsewhere on the internet.
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Uh oh, take care here.

Look carefully at the text, “As a parent, you had best beware.” And, “elite branch of the Army such as the Marine Corps.”

It is obviously written by the parent of a Marine. Since they do not know that Marines are separate but closer to the Navy than the Army it must be a mother.

She is grieving too, so please stop this discourse.
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Old 12-11-2008, 11:24 PM
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Wow, you must be reading an entirely different page. There are a lot of factual errors for this to have been written by the mother of a Marine. The writer never claims to be a woman, much less a mother, much less the grieving mother of a fallen Marine.

Finally, even if this was written by the grieving mother of a fallen Marine, why should that stop us from discussing the fact that she is completely wrong?
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Old 12-11-2008, 11:58 PM
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I managed to reply. Nothing rude, (however much I might have liked to be), but a simple declaration of the facts.
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