Executive staff...

[JROTCdudett]

Forget this post...

[Armed Drill Addict]

Our staff is actually pretty intelligent and capable, but our SNSI and our NSI constantly get in the way and prevent us from accomplishing anything. We try very hard to make some much needed changes to the way we do things, but it seems like the only things that ever get done are what they decide are important.

[devin0116]

Drill Addict, most of the time instructors get in the way.

As far as my staff goes. I like my Group Commander. He can get down to business when he needs to and can be a nice guy to talk to. He usually leaves his rank in the classroom and my favortie, he has never/doesn't kiss up to the instructors. But most of the other staff I find rude and incompetent. Thats why I'm pushing for changes but I Know some of those hard-charging officers are going to resist with all their might. But thats life, nothing comes easy.

Best Regards,
devin0116

[TruBlu]

Originally Posted by JROTCdudett

What's everyone's opinion on the executive staff in your JROTC program? Good or bad? How are they as CO, XO, ect? Yea well our executive staff abuse power and push and shove the lower cadets to the limit and they just randomly decide that we're not going to competition and say that we're not ready. Kinda funny because only two of them are on drill teams and the others really don't do anything. Don't get me wrong as individuals they are great but as our Exec. staff...ehhh not so much. How should me and the other drill team CDR's deal with this?

You say this, "Who is the drill team commander sir/ma'am?" They reply with, "Why you are." You say, "Good, now you appointed me here because you know that I know how to handle it. So you do your job and I'll do mine, and I'll tell you when my drill team is ready or not." Then you walk away. I'm serious, because what happens is commanders get a little big in the head and become very controlling. A good commander must know when to let his/her troops operate on their own. Otherwise said commander isn't a very good one at all.

[13B_Warrior]

Originally Posted by JROTCdudett

What's everyone's opinion on the executive staff in your JROTC program? Good or bad? How are they as CO, XO, ect? Yea well our executive staff abuse power and push and shove the lower cadets to the limit and they just randomly decide that we're not going to competition and say that we're not ready. Kinda funny because only two of them are on drill teams and the others really don't do anything. Don't get me wrong as individuals they are great but as our Exec. staff...ehhh not so much. How should me and the other drill team CDR's deal with this?

JROTCdudett, I did have a long and drawn out post about the NJROTC rank structure, with points about your rank and your commanding officer's rank, but, based on the lack of information given, I have decided to cut it down to the most important points.

(and Armed Drill Addict and devin0116, while I understand as a former cadet where you are coming from, this goes for you guys too)

Your SNSI and/or NSI(s) have some amount of time in the military that is greater than your own. They also have the authority set forth by the Department of the Navy and your local school system, which thus supersedes your own authority as a team commander. They have chosen your commanding officer and executive officer as the ones to take on the responsibility of running your unit (from the cadet stand-point). You say that they are on drill teams. Well, that tells me that they have experience in drill and ceremony. Those two together tell me that they have what it takes to make that call. And, if in fact your team(s) didn't not participate in said competitions, I believe that your instructors share in my opinion.

The point is, ultimately, they are the bosses. What they say goes, so long as it does not interfere with any decisions that your instructors have made. That's something that you are going to have to get used to real quick. Military, or civilian, you are sometimes going to run into bosses that you may not like. Said bosses may make bull... (sorry, cadet forum) Sometimes, your boss may make calls that you do not agree with, and/or do not understand. As long as they are not illegal or immoral, you have to follow said calls. If you don't, you face some kind of consequences.

Just something to think about.

KING OF BATTLE!
13B

[devin0116]

I understand that the SNSI and NSI (or in my case SASI and ASI) have more experience than me especially since the SASI is a Major and the ASI SMSgt. But what I meant by my statement is sometimes ( at least in my opinion no one is perfect) that they can/do make an occasional bad call or are resistent to change. I mean no disrespect. I'm sure some of you remember the thread I posted about wearing the MARPAT for Veteran's Day Parade. Well in the end the plug was pulled at the last minute, but I took a lot of flak trying to back out of wearing and convince the ASI and SASI to drop the program completely. I brought up the point about some Marines being offended by me wearing the active-duty only uniform. My ASI said that I dare question Major's orders.

[13B_Warrior]

True, they are human, as are we all. I'm glad that you recognize that. My point still stands, though, that you guys will one day run into superiors that are going to make you want to pull your muscles out from under you skin. But, as long as they're not breaking the law, you have to bite the 155mm DPICM round and take it.

KING OF BATTLE!
13B

[devin0116]

No doubt, I run into superiors I don't like or agree with now, unfortunantly I have to listen and get it over with.