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“Men of integrity, by their very existence, rekindle the belief that as a people we can live above the level of moral squalor. We need that belief; a cynical community is a corrupt community.” - John W. Gardner |
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Are these the same people who are now claiming that "Gay is the new Black"?
All it does is prove that beyond being extremely sexually confused, the rest of their "centers of reasoning" is in a state of utter disrepair, and in desperate need of a swift kick to the brain housing group in order to adjust their headspace and timing. |
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Framing it as these people being 'unprovoked aggressors' is hardly accurate: How many leaders of 'Christian' Churches declaimed rather vehemently against them from the pulpit? Perhaps they see it as a little 'payback'?
I don't condone their actions, but I think I can understand - including why they picked a 'high visibility target', rather than traveling to, shall we say Topeka, Kansas: Mt. Hope - obviously - resulted in headlines, at Westboro Baptist Church who would notice - or care? I never claimed to have any 'ultimate answers', nor do I accept any credo that equates 'belief' with 'knowledge', but from the perspective of an outsider with no 'ties' to either group, I see the 'why' of the incident, as well as the 'how' and 'where'. They obviously 'made their point' - whether they alienated more than empathized with them was irrelevant: They got publicity for their 'cause'. Infantile 'acting out' always does. |
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Well, if the Church members had personally gone into the flamers bars, and started a bunch of trouble, I'd say fine, but that's not the case here, is it? For it to be equitable, the flamers would have had to have held their little "hissy fit" in their OWN "church", or wherever they hang out.
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Think you missed the point - if not the whole pencil: It was never 'about' being 'fair and equitable', it was about grabbing headlines.
They're not 'going after' Jerry Falwell - or Billy Graham - or straight 'party people', they're hitting where they'll encounter the least resistance with the greatest 'splash'. They've already influenced public policy in other areas: Schools are now 'required' to teach 'alternative lifestyles' (suppose 'lifestyles' is what people have when they can't get a 'life'), have forced their agenda on the legislature, the courts and to some extent the military - the Church is the only 'establishment' - for the most part - that has refused to cave in. |
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Their actions are taken straight from the terrorist playbook, only substituting 'outrageous' or 'indefensible' actions for bombs: Generate enough outrage and force 'the authorities' to take suppressive action against any and all suspected members of the 'faction' - usually the 'known' or more 'recognizable' ones - generating some basis for claims of 'a pattern of discrimination'. Their acts can't be ignored, but any retaliation is used as 'justification' for 'escalation': The more 'outrage' they generate, the more 'successful' they consider themselves, and whatever we may think of them or their methods, they are, by their standards, achieving 'success'. We can't ignore them, but condemning their methods is no solution - and this is one I currently don't have an answer for. |
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The following is a link to a Fox news story dated Dec. 01 that ties in with this subject.
The losers in the California gay marriage decision are apparently targeting the Morman church. Quite interesting takes from both sides of the issue in this article. http://www.foxnews.com:80/story/0,2933,459544,00.html |
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That may be a really, really bad choice: The New Life Church in Colorado Springs was LDS (Mormon), and we all remember what happened to the clown who attempted to 'disrupt' their service.
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