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Old 11-29-2008, 01:40 PM
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Using megaphones for amplification they shouted epithets at those entering the service such as “Jesus is a homo”. They also mockingly carried an upside down pink cross.


In a news release, Bash Back referred to Mt. Hope Church as “a deplorable anti-queer mega church.” They further elaborated their disdain for the Christian community at Mt. Hope on their web site.
LANSING, Michigan (Catholic Online) - Dr. Dave Williams is the Pastor of a large evangelical Protestant Church in Lansing, Michigan called the Mount Hope Church. The Church web site informs the visitor of Pastor Williams that “He has served for 25 years, leading the church in Lansing from 226 to over 4000 today.” The Pastor is respected in the broader Christian, religious and civic community and the Church has extensive outreaches.

This past Sunday, during a Worship Service at the Church, a group of loud and intentionally disruptive homosexual activists stood outside of the sanctuary of Mount Hope dressed in strange pink attire. Using megaphones for amplification, they shouted epithets at those entering the service such as “Jesus is a homo”.They also mockingly carried an upside down pink cross.

Reports filed with the Eaton County Sheriff’s office indicate that other demonstrators had staged a further action intended to disrupt the Sunday Worship at Mount Hope. Dressed in clothing which would not have indicated their intention, they entered into the sanctuary and were seated with the community. Then, in an orchestrated manner, they left their seats, pulled fire alarms, distributed anti-Christian literature and stormed the Pastor’s pulpit waving a rainbow colored flag and shouting “It’s Okay To Be Gay! Bash Back”.

The organization behind this action is called “Bash Back”. They describe themselves as “a radical trans/queer/anarcha-feminist group” committed to “fight for liberation while rejecting all forms of state power.” In a news release, Bash Back referred to Mt. Hope Church as “a deplorable anti-queer mega church.” They further elaborated their disdain for the Christian community at Mt. Hope on their web site in these words: “The Mount Hope Church is a deplorable, anti-queer mega-church in Lansing, Michigan. The church works to institutionalize transphobia and homophobia through several repulsive projects including organized “ex-gay” conferences and so-called “hell houses”, which depict queers, trannies and womyn who seek abortions as the horrors. Mt. Hope is complicit in the repression of queers in Michigan and beyond.”

The Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights, the nation's largest Catholic civil rights organization led by Bill Donohue, Ph.D., has called on the Attorney General of State of Michigan to institute an investigation. The Catholic League issued the following release:

GAY FASCISTS STORM CHURCH

On Sunday, November 9, a band of about 30 gays stormed a church in Lansing, Michigan. Some were well dressed and were stationed inside Mount Hope Church; others were outside dressed in pink and black. The group of self-described homosexual anarchists, Bash Back!, claims the evangelical church is guilty of “transphobia and homophobia.”

The protesters outside the church were beating on buckets, shouting “Jesus was a homo” on a megaphone and carrying an upside-down pink cross. Fire alarms went off inside the church, protesters stormed the pulpit and a huge rainbow-colored flag was unfurled with the inscription, “IT’S OKAY TO BE GAY! BASH BACK!” The church was vandalized, obscenities were shouted and worshippers were confronted. There were no arrests.

Catholic League president Bill Donohue addressed this issue today:

“The real story here is the refusal of the mainstream media to cover what is surely one of the most disturbing events of 2008. If an organized group of gay bashers stormed a gay church, there is not a single sentient person in the United States who wouldn’t know about it.

“This is urban fascism come to America’s heartland. It must be quickly stopped before it gets out of control. We are contacting Mike Cox, the Attorney General of Michigan, calling for an investigation.”

We join with our friends at the Catholic League and encourage our readers to contact Attorney General Mike Cox at miag@michigan.gov
This infuriates me. I first found out about it on Bill O' Reilly's show a couple nights ago and I couldn't believe my ears. In my opinion, a church or any sacred place of worship is off limits to these types of slandering. What do all of you think?
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Old 12-01-2008, 08:34 PM
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Are these the same people who are now claiming that "Gay is the new Black"?

All it does is prove that beyond being extremely sexually confused, the rest of their "centers of reasoning" is in a state of utter disrepair, and in desperate need of a swift kick to the brain housing group in order to adjust their headspace and timing.
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Old 12-01-2008, 10:28 PM
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Framing it as these people being 'unprovoked aggressors' is hardly accurate: How many leaders of 'Christian' Churches declaimed rather vehemently against them from the pulpit? Perhaps they see it as a little 'payback'?

I don't condone their actions, but I think I can understand - including why they picked a 'high visibility target', rather than traveling to, shall we say Topeka, Kansas: Mt. Hope - obviously - resulted in headlines, at Westboro Baptist Church who would notice - or care?

I never claimed to have any 'ultimate answers', nor do I accept any credo that equates 'belief' with 'knowledge', but from the perspective of an outsider with no 'ties' to either group, I see the 'why' of the incident, as well as the 'how' and 'where'.

They obviously 'made their point' - whether they alienated more than empathized with them was irrelevant: They got publicity for their 'cause'. Infantile 'acting out' always does.
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Old 12-01-2008, 11:10 PM
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Framing it as these people being 'unprovoked aggressors' is hardly accurate: How many leaders of 'Christian' Churches declaimed rather vehemently against them from the pulpit? Perhaps they see it as a little 'payback'?
Well, if the Church members had personally gone into the flamers bars, and started a bunch of trouble, I'd say fine, but that's not the case here, is it? For it to be equitable, the flamers would have had to have held their little "hissy fit" in their OWN "church", or wherever they hang out.
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Old 12-02-2008, 12:33 AM
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Think you missed the point - if not the whole pencil: It was never 'about' being 'fair and equitable', it was about grabbing headlines.

They're not 'going after' Jerry Falwell - or Billy Graham - or straight 'party people', they're hitting where they'll encounter the least resistance with the greatest 'splash'.

They've already influenced public policy in other areas: Schools are now 'required' to teach 'alternative lifestyles' (suppose 'lifestyles' is what people have when they can't get a 'life'), have forced their agenda on the legislature, the courts and to some extent the military - the Church is the only 'establishment' - for the most part - that has refused to cave in.
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Think you missed the point - if not the whole pencil: It was never 'about' being 'fair and equitable', it was about grabbing headlines.

They're not 'going after' Jerry Falwell - or Billy Graham - or straight 'party people', they're hitting where they'll encounter the least resistance with the greatest 'splash'.

They've already influenced public policy in other areas: Schools are now 'required' to teach 'alternative lifestyles' (suppose 'lifestyles' is what people have when they can't get a 'life'), have forced their agenda on the legislature, the courts and to some extent the military - the Church is the only 'establishment' - for the most part - that has refused to cave in.
I didn't miss anything Hairy, merely pointing out that doing so in the way that they did is indefensible. After all, John Hinckley Jr. shot Reagan not in self defense, not as vindication for some perceived wrong, but merely to "grab headlines" too, and I consider these a$$holes to be equally as mentally deranged as Hinckley, and they need to be given the same treatment as he, confined to a mental institution for decades.
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Old 12-02-2008, 09:43 AM
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...doing so in the way that they did is indefensible.
And I am not 'defending' it, but that is precisely the point: They don't give a rat's @$$ about our 'conventional morality' - the more outrageous we consider their actions, the more publicity they garner for their 'cause'. This particular faction has no interest in 'acceptance' or 'equal treatment under the law', they consider themselves 'special' (as in 'special' education, perhaps?) and not bound by 'conventional' rules of society.

Their actions are taken straight from the terrorist playbook, only substituting 'outrageous' or 'indefensible' actions for bombs: Generate enough outrage and force 'the authorities' to take suppressive action against any and all suspected members of the 'faction' - usually the 'known' or more 'recognizable' ones - generating some basis for claims of 'a pattern of discrimination'. Their acts can't be ignored, but any retaliation is used as 'justification' for 'escalation': The more 'outrage' they generate, the more 'successful' they consider themselves, and whatever we may think of them or their methods, they are, by their standards, achieving 'success'.

We can't ignore them, but condemning their methods is no solution - and this is one I currently don't have an answer for.
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The following is a link to a Fox news story dated Dec. 01 that ties in with this subject.

The losers in the California gay marriage decision are apparently targeting the Morman church. Quite interesting takes from both sides of the issue in this article.

http://www.foxnews.com:80/story/0,2933,459544,00.html
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Old 12-03-2008, 10:14 AM
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That may be a really, really bad choice: The New Life Church in Colorado Springs was LDS (Mormon), and we all remember what happened to the clown who attempted to 'disrupt' their service.
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