JROTC Unit Structure standardization

[FuturePilot09]

Hi, new to the forums (as of today) so please let me know if anything is wrong, I will try to write in detail and with what I know...

Does anybody else think that there are "too many Chiefs, not enough Indians" in your JROTC Units? With my small Corps, it is easy to communicate, but it can get difficult when you need to contact so many people (officers usually) versus "knowing" who to go to... I read the other forum active now, and have had some friends transfer between Units, and structure has differed significantly. I am not sure why it is not the same (generally but not exactly since each school has different focus and number of cadets).

Back to my question, what do you think that all of our Units have different structure and chain of commands? This includes Commanders, Officers, Squadrons/Flights...

Feel free to comment or to add an attachment of your chain of command at your Unit!

Thanks.

FuturePilot09

[devin0116]

Well, first off welcome. Second, are you looking to change or rebuild your currwnt unit structure? If you are speak to TruBlu becasue he is a wiz at this stuff. He has helped several people, including me, with completely re-building an Organizational chart showing all staf positions. I chose to ask him about helping me because my unit is the same way. "To many Indians, not enough cheifs" as you say, especially since my cheifs had pointless jobs or didn't do them.

You can go to this thread- http://www.gruntsmilitary.com/board/...read.php?t=102

Best Regards,
devin0116

[TruBlu]

Devin is too kind lol. Welcome my good man FuturePilot09.

Interested in organizational structures? Check out the link that Devin provided you, and also this one: http://www.gruntsmilitary.com/board/...read.php?t=223 (fully dedicated to organizational structure discussion).

I am one of the proponents of sensible and flexible organization, so if that's what you are looking for, lets talk. Of course you will see numerous organizational charts on this site, and I can almost guarantee each one has changed a little (I know mine has, rather will). Check out those threads, look around, comment, and then we can talk about what you got and what you need.

[TruBlu]

Originally Posted by FuturePilot09

Thanks so much. Ours is a bit different, and have four flights: Ops, Mission Support, Special Activities, and Logistics. Lots of positions I would change and combine, but as always, up to the SASI.

Thanks!

Everything is at the SASI's discretion, but a good commander, as well as instructor, knows that they need to listen to their subordinates (notice I said listen, not do specifically). Tell you what, why don't you go to that thread I provided, post up what your unit has now, and what you would do. Then we can all discuss it. Of course this is beneficial to all parties; I know I haven't heard of a structure that you are describing.

Think on it.

[OrienteeringOH]

If I may, regardless of the Unit manning document, or structure of your Chain of Command, while dealing with High School Cadets, inevitably, you will find there are always too many Cheifs and not enough Indians.

[TruBlu]

Originally Posted by OrienteeringOH

If I may, regardless of the Unit manning document, or structure of your Chain of Command, while dealing with High School Cadets, inevitably, you will find there are always too many Cheifs and not enough Indians.

Stark observation, and 99% of the time I will agree with you. Where the problem truly lies is, wait for it, motivation. You have to motivate people to take a back seat and be commanded. You also have to motivate to get good commanders, or be a good commander. You have to be motivated when you see a problem, or don't agree with something. That's what our generation lacks, motivation.

[Drill for life]

Originally Posted by OrienteeringOH

If I may, regardless of the Unit manning document, or structure of your Chain of Command, while dealing with High School Cadets, inevitably, you will find there are always too many Cheifs and not enough Indians.

Th real leader is somebody who will give somebody else the chance to shine and not lead just for your own personal glory. I'd rather lead from the rear and not be roconized than Lead by the front and be cocky and conceded.

[devin0116]

Originally Posted by Drill for life

Th real leader is somebody who will give somebody else the chance to shine and not lead just for your own personal glory. I'd rather lead from the rear and not be roconized than Lead by the front and be cocky and conceded.

No doubt. But of course being noticed as officer material now can help me with a scholarship opportunity. I remember in 8th grade I was a squad leader and knowing that I would be graduating next year I decided to have my 7th graders command more so they could get experience because they were the future of the unit. Good times they were.

[Drill for life]

That's a good Leadership Quality, never think of oyurself first always think of the poeple your actions will affect as a Leader. Remeber you are never done Learning Leadership, no matter how many years you spend in your Career or how high you go rank wise, remeber that and you'll be fine.

[SlightlyCatholic]

I'd rather lead from the rear and not be roconized than Lead by the front and be cocky and conceded.

Some would call "leading from the rear" not leading at all. Why would you rather lead from the back than lead from the front?