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Old 11-25-2008, 02:11 PM
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Pistol-Packing Pennsylvania Soccer Mom Sues Sheriff

HARRISBURG, Pa. — A Pennsylvania woman Monday sued a county sheriff who revoked her concealed-weapons permit after she upset fellow parents by wearing her holstered pistol to her 5-year-old daughter's soccer game.

Meleanie Hain alleges in a suit filed in a Harrisburg federal court that Lebanon County Sheriff Michael DeLeo violated her Second Amendment rights and prosecuted her maliciously when he took away her permit in September.

Hain, 30, successfully appealed the revocation last month, although the judge who restored her permit questioned her judgment and said she "scared the devil" out of others who attended the Sept. 11 soccer game.

Hain said Monday her home-based baby-sitting service has suffered, her children have been harassed, and she has been ostracized by her neighbors because of DeLeo's actions. In one instance, she said, a neighbor who saw Hain in a local store had the manager ask her to leave because she was carrying her handgun.

"I fought for my right, and now I'm still being punished," she said.

DeLeo's office referred questions to the county's attorney, George Christianson, who did not immediately return a telephone call seeking comment.

DeLeo said at Hain's Oct. 14 appeal hearing he pulled her license after fielding the parents' complaints. He said he based his decision on a section of state law that prohibits concealed-weapons permits from being given to people whose character and reputation make them a danger to public safety.

Hain has said she previously carried her handgun openly to soccer games and practices and other public places without any problem. Her attorney, Matthew Weisberg, said DeLeo had no legal right to take away her permit.

"The sheriff just rides into town and without any hearing, explanation or anything, takes away her license and forces her into court," Weisberg said.
Would anyone care to attempt to answer exactly how carrying a weapon, in the open, in a holster constitutes a "danger to public safety" as the Sheriff claimed? For that matter, what about her "character and reputation" made her a "danger to public safety"? Better yet, would anyone care to show me where in the Second Amendment it says anything about "character and reputation"?

This Sheriff needs to be run out of town on a rail, and yesterday!
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Old 11-25-2008, 02:30 PM
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This Sheriff needs to be run out of town on a rail, and yesterday!
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Old 11-25-2008, 02:32 PM
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I don't want to take that much time. Now, if you can figure out a way to accomplish it "on the run", so much the better, otherwise, leaving him tied to the aforementioned rail when he's dumped outside the County will have to do.
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Old 11-25-2008, 02:57 PM
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Would anyone care to attempt to answer exactly how carrying a weapon, in the open, in a holster constitutes a "danger to public safety" as the Sheriff claimed?
It doesn't. If that's the case, the sheriff should have his weapon taken from him as well as it's also a "danger to public safety". I think the key word here is, "holstered". Had the woman been carrying the weapon within reach of a child's grasp then I could see where public safety would be an issue.
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Old 11-25-2008, 05:48 PM
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When I was stationed in Alaska, I carried a holstered pistol with me everywhere I went...

He is not even in office yet and it has already started.
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...the judge who restored her permit questioned her judgment and said she "scared the devil" out of others...
This is a crock of nightsoil. People fear what they don't understand, especially when the 'education' establishment and lamestream, drive-by media have succeeded in demonizing an inert piece of steel, and the brainwashed avoids contact with (and any actual knowledge of) the tools of self-defense.

On the way to the county limits, perhaps someone might explain to the Sheriff ('captive audience', anyone?) that statistically and demonstrably, those horrified soccer moms are measurably more deadly - tooling down the road in their two-ton SUVs texting on cell phones, one eye on the GPS and one on the ankle-biters in the back seat (while sneaking a peek at the DVD 'entertaining' them) than the Meleanie Hains. Perhaps someone might also explain to the willing 'victims' of gun-grabber propaganda that those citizens who have successfully completed the process of begging the government for 'permission' to exercise a natural right and paid the bribe demanded for issuance of the 'permission slip' are among the safest, most law-abiding in the nation - they have to be: Once they're on the computer as 'licensed' to carry, they are monitored daily.

Just as a random, semi-related thought: Imagine the non-event if, say, a million or so current CCW holders - suitably attired, of course - showed up at an inaugural event...until it was 'leaked' to the New York Fishwrap - er, 'Times' - and See-B.S.
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Just as a random, semi-related thought: Imagine the non-event if, say, a million or so current CCW holders - suitably attired, of course - showed up at an inaugural event...until it was 'leaked' to the New York Fishwrap - er, 'Times' - and See-B.S.

Well, one thing is for certain, if anyone did attempt anything "untoward" during the aforementioned event, they would immediately be subdued, and rendered 'impotent', but of course the lamestream media would out of rote report it as an "overreaction".
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Surely concealed carry means other people cant see your weapon? If you carrying it and other people see it and then complain .
Its your fault glad she got her permit back hope she has been given tips on concelment .

Anyway tradtional weapon for football holigans is a stanely knife guns just spoil the fun
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Much more tragic than the impingement of Second Amendment rights, I have been informed by my very liberal (and gun toting daughter and son-in-law lawyers) that the husband has sued for loss of consortium. There may be more here than meets the eye. This may be the basis for a new Viagra commercial, but otherwise tragic.
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Old 11-27-2008, 12:47 AM
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Timwoodhead: Meleanie Hain was open carrying at the time. She did not do anything wrong, and most assuredly did not deserve to have her concealed-carry permit revoked.

Here's an old news article that was published shortly after Mrs. Hain's permit was revoked. This story tends to explain what in the world happened, and exactly why Sheriff DumbLeo needs to lose this lawsuit in a bad way.
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