Misnomer (i.e. the MSM has it wrong)

[Billyd]

There are a number of posters here that believe that the Jr. Senator from Illinois is the President-Elect of the United States of America. However, this is incorrect. We have only endured the popular vote and have not completed the Constitutionaly mandated process for electing the President and the Vice-President of the United States.

While we have endured the first step, there is still a couple of steps to go. The first being the Electors of the several states convening and casting there votes, which by the way, do NOT have to be cast for the winner of the popular vote, except in 4 cases where the laws of the state require them to do so. Those votes are then signed, certified, and sealed then sent to the seat of government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate. Then, in a joint session of Congress, those certificates will be opened, and provided that the person with the most votes has a majority of the Electors appointed (in our case 270) that person shall then become the President of the United States.

So, while we bemoan the results of the populous vote, the Jr. Senator for the state of Illinois, is still that. The Jr. Senator for the state of Illinois. While extrememly unlikely, The Sr. Senator for the state of Arizona, John S. McCain could still become President of the United States. In fact, for that matter HairyEyeball could become President of the United States.

So, until the votes of the Electoral College are opened by the President of the Senate on January 6, 2009, there is no President-Elect.

[SlightlyCatholic]

There are a number of posters here that believe that the Jr. Senator from Illinois is the President-Elect of the United States of America. However, this is incorrect.

If this is correct, then why is the media referring to Mr. Obama as the President-Elect? Is there a specific document in which these processes can be found?

[Billyd]

Originally Posted by Seminarian_Tim

If this is correct, then why is the media referring to Mr. Obama as the President-Elect?

Proceed to the following site and tell me. Why does the MSM declare the winner prior to all the votes being counted?

http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html#Am12

[SlightlyCatholic]

While extrememly unlikely, The Sr. Senator for the state of Arizona, John S. McCain could still become President of the United States.

I'm guessing that the reason the media calls him that is because it would be a one in a million shot of the vote going for McCain...they're probably assuming the votes of the Electoral College. After all, why would the Electors go against the will of the people? Most are in Congress and probably wouldn't get re-elected for another term if their state voted Blue and they went Red. Then again, I tried to find the electors for my own state and couldn't, so I'm not sure I'd be able to find out a) who my electors are and b) how they voted.

[Billyd]

Originally Posted by Seminarian_Tim

Most are in Congress

Actuall, members of Congress are precluded from serving as electors.

[03_SHOOTER]

Originally Posted by Billyd

There are a number of posters here that believe that the Jr. Senator from Illinois is the President-Elect of the United States of America. However, this is incorrect. We have only endured the popular vote and have not completed the Constitutionaly mandated process for electing the President and the Vice-President of the United States.

Outstanding post Billy!

Isn't it amazing how little the sheeple know about our government, and how frightening it is that they're ALLOWED TO VOTE!

[PaulR]

Obama can be called President Elect because Senator McCain conceded and acknowledged Obama as the victor.

[03_SHOOTER]

Originally Posted by PaulR

Obama can be called President Elect because Senator McCain conceded and acknowledged Obama as the victor.

McCain may have CONceded the popular vote, but until the Electoral College ELECTS the President, he is NOT the "President Elect".

In case you've forgotten, We The People do not vote for POTUS, we vote to inform our Electors how we would like them to vote for POTUS, but We The People do not elect POTUS.

[Billyd]

It never ceases to amaze me that those that have sworn an oath or considering taking an oath to "support and defend" the document that lays out the framework for our government have failed to read and understand it. While the original post will be considered nit-picking and a matter of semantics by some, the Supreme Law of the land tells us EXACTLY how the President is elected and the mandates of that law have NOT yet been met.

[03_SHOOTER]

Originally Posted by Billyd

It never ceases to amaze me that those that have sworn an oath or considering taking an oath to "support and defend" the document that lays out the framework for our government have failed to read and understand it. While the original post will be considered nit-picking and a matter of semantics by some, the Supreme Law of the land tells us EXACTLY how the President is elected and the mandates of that law have NOT yet been met.

Why don't you tell us exactly how you feel?

Seriously though, what's REALLY amazing is that even after I took the time to create a dedicated thread, and post links to the Constitution, as well as most of the salient documents that led to it, I'd be very surprised to find that even a half a dozen members have bothered to REFERENCE THEM! I swear, if ignorance really is bliss, then there are one HELL of a lot of VERY happy people around here.