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Due to a recent thread, the question of whether or not body piercings are protected under the First Amendment of our Constitution arose. I say yes. While the First Amendment is best known for our protection to the freedom of speech, it also protects our freedom of expression (as well as religion, the right to assembly, and the right to petition the government). Acceptable forms of expression have never really been agreed upon, how can you refute someone's form of personal expression? So, expression has developed not only through speech, but also actions and art. Art can include anything from paintings to poetry to "body art" (tattoos, brands, piercings). So I say that piercings are protected under our First Amendment.
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I found this article at http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org
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All of this gets thrown out the door when you enter the military. When you enlist, you give up all of those freedoms and while you are in the military you do only what you are told to do.
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Now, as defined by the First Amendment (and subsequent precedents that have arisen since), does "expression" represent "speech"? What if my speech is that you performed a crime last night? Am I free to say that? It could be my expression... Please don't post half-hearted ramblings...please research what the First Amendment actually says, and then form a hypothesis from that. R/ Pingjocky p.s. I know you didn't do any research because the one you missed was Freedom of the Press...
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Do I give up my right to bear arms? Do I give up my right to peacably assemble? Which rights, if any do I "lose" when I enlist? R/ Pingjocky p.s. your article showed good attempt at research, but methinks more is needed...
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This would be a good time to post this: http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/...itary_mbrs.pdf. Those are the rights of military members, most importantly and prudent to our discussion here is section 4.
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My, apologies. I didn't mean to say that you "give up" your freedoms, just that when you enlist you agree to live by certain guidelines that can partially limit expression, speech, etc.
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When does expression not convey a message of some sort?
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So may I attend a political rally in uniform, or must I be in civvies? Can the military tell me who to vote for? Does the military have any control over what my spouse does or does not do? Exactly how does being in the military limit me? Not mad at you guys...just trying to get you to do some research, think, and then come up with the answers.... R/ Pingjocky
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I don't recall any officer of the government telling me I couldn't participate in gatherings or assemblies, practicing my religion, telling me what newspaper I had to read or what news channels I had to watch. I don't recall having to turn in my weapons because I no longer had a right to keep and bear them. I don't recall being told that I couldn't face my accusers nor did I give up the right to a speedy trial. To this day I recall the oath I took and nowhere in it does it say I give up any rights. In fact, the oath of enlistment goes like this: Quote:
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I'm sorry that I failed to include a piece in my first post, I would like to amend that with the direct quotation of the First Amendment: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
Under that, maybe expression isn't protected under the First Amendment, but over the many years, the freedom of speech has been misconstrued and portrayed as a freedom of expression. Maybe a more viable amendment for the right of expression would be the Ninth Amendment and/or Tenth Amendment. Ninth Amendment: The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people. Is expression a birthright of our citizens and should be retained? In this yes. The Ninth Amendment has been used in many Supreme Court rulings, including the ever controversial Roe v. Wade and its sister case Doe v. Bolton, and has protected non-enumerated rights. Tenth Amendment: The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people. If the right to expression is not directly delegated to the US by the constitution, or the state, then it falls upon the people to retain that empowerment. I'm no expert, but I do research and like to learn things, that's the whole point of posting these things, to learn. I'm sorry that I made a mistake and you are right, it looked like I didn't do any research. I hope you find this more in the way of an attempt at research and expression of an idea than that of the previous post.
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