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Old 10-21-2008, 11:26 AM
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Default A cadet being removed from the program

A junior in my unit was recently suspended and recommended for expulsion.
Another student in the school claims that the cadet threatened him with a knife, and when they searched the cadet they found tylenol and a lighter(both are things you can't have on campus), but no knife.

They sent him to a shrink for threat analysis and she said there was no reson for them to not let him back into school. My issue is my SNSI and NSI are debating on whether the cadet should be allowed back into the unit because of the alleged knife threat.

Do you think that under these circumstances the cadet should be allowed back into the unit?
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Old 10-21-2008, 12:24 PM
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Were the allegations of a threat proven to be true? That's a big one right there. What's the issue of him returning to the unit if things were proven false, and a qualified medical professional evaluated him to be OK to be there?
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Old 10-21-2008, 02:20 PM
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I think they should allow him back in unless they found the knife. I understand that he had to illegal items at school (tylenol and lighter) but what high school kid has never had anything of that nature.
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To me, if he is allowed back to school, then why not back into the unit? JROTC is a class before anything else when it comes to school, and banning him from a class but allowing him at school makes no sense to me. I understand that JROTC is not the average class, but its still a class and its still school. This is not to say that a close eye should not be kept on him, sometimes weapons don't turn up and he still did it, not saying he did though.

If he is allowed back to school and his classes, then he should be allowed back to school with all of his classes, plain and simple.
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I've done way worse than that and I was put back in my unit( well it was actually out of school)I have one assault charge and one battery charge. I have always had a tendency to fly off the handle. Here's what happened.
1. I had just gotten back from a Volunteer Service project in Louisiana(my youth group where rebuilding house knocked down and damaged by Katrina). We got back and my dad was watching my house(I have never had a good relationship with my dad and hadn't spoken to him for over two years at a time). So we went to roans and my Recruiter called me, so we where talking about my MOS and my Shipdate and he asked me if I wanted to Volunteer for active duty in Iraq or Afghanistan and I said yes. That made my dad mad, he flew off the handle and started saying things like” your a Piece of S%^& wanting to go fight in a stupid God^@# war(please forgive the language) and what made me mad is what he said next” I thought I raised you right and thought I taught you better"(my dad use to abuse me and my mom). I jumped across the table and beat the living crap out of him. I fractured three of his ribs, broke his wrist and caved in one of his lungs. The manager called the cops on me.
2. It was late at night and my friend called me. He told me to get over to his place now. I threw on some clothes and went, on the way these crips that live neighborhood decided to jump the JROTC kid. One of them brought out a knife and stabbed e in the thigh, I took the knife out and stabbed him multiple times. I blacked out and woke up in a holding cell, three of my friends had gotten arrested also and they told me what happened. I got off with Probation and anger management classes. I'm fine now, none of that stuff affected my AJROTC career at all.
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New news, his hearing was yesterday, and they allowed him to come back.
He is also allowed to return to the unit even to the point of being allowed to compete with us in two weeks. I'm pretty excited for him because he's a good guy and didn't deserve to be expelled because the kid who made the threat has a grudge against cadets in JROTC.
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New news, his hearing was yesterday, and they allowed him to come back.
He is also allowed to return to the unit even to the point of being allowed to compete with us in two weeks. I'm pretty excited for him because he's a good guy and didn't deserve to be expelled because the kid who made the threat has a grudge against cadets in JROTC.
Glad to hear this. Guess the accuser really didn't have much to back himself on eh? Onus, the burden of proof lying on the accuser. Justice is served lol.
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Great, I'm glad he didn't get in trouble. What does he do in your unit?
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