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Old 09-15-2008, 06:15 PM
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Angry Now THIS is pure political BS!!

Thanks to the NY Post for blowing the lid off of this one!

OBAMA TRIED TO STALL GIS' IRAQ WITHDRAWAL

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WHILE campaigning in public for a speedy withdrawal of US troops from Iraq, Sen. Barack Obama has tried in private to persuade Iraqi leaders to delay an agreement on a draw-down of the American military presence.

According to Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, Obama made his demand for delay a key theme of his discussions with Iraqi leaders in Baghdad in July.

"He asked why we were not prepared to delay an agreement until after the US elections and the formation of a new administration in Washington," Zebari said in an interview.

Obama insisted that Congress should be involved in negotiations on the status of US troops - and that it was in the interests of both sides not to have an agreement negotiated by the Bush administration in its "state of weakness and political confusion."

"However, as an Iraqi, I prefer to have a security agreement that regulates the activities of foreign troops, rather than keeping the matter open." Zebari says.

Though Obama claims the US presence is "illegal," he suddenly remembered that Americans troops were in Iraq within the legal framework of a UN mandate. His advice was that, rather than reach an accord with the "weakened Bush administration," Iraq should seek an extension of the UN mandate.

While in Iraq, Obama also tried to persuade the US commanders, including Gen. David Petraeus, to suggest a "realistic withdrawal date." They declined.

Obama has made many contradictory statements with regard to Iraq. His latest position is that US combat troops should be out by 2010. Yet his effort to delay an agreement would make that withdrawal deadline impossible to meet.

Supposing he wins, Obama's administration wouldn't be fully operational before February - and naming a new ambassador to Baghdad and forming a new negotiation team might take longer still.

By then, Iraq will be in the throes of its own campaign season. Judging by the past two elections, forming a new coalition government may then take three months. So the Iraqi negotiating team might not be in place until next June.

Then, judging by how long the current talks have taken, restarting the process from scratch would leave the two sides needing at least six months to come up with a draft accord. That puts us at May 2010 for when the draft might be submitted to the Iraqi parliament - which might well need another six months to pass it into law.
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Old 09-16-2008, 07:35 AM
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o3,

While I do believe this, typical Obama/Democratic tactic, how many people are going to read this and respond to it when it comes to cast their votes? I am pissed as heck that this guy can say anything like this, I don't care if he's running or not. He does NOT have the authority as a CANDIDATE to NEGOTIATE for the USofA. Per and simple. And to state that the Country under Bush is WEAK? What was it under Bill Clinton? Damn Fool!
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Old 09-17-2008, 09:04 PM
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This guy is an idiot and pretty full of himself. Like "ang1sgt" said "I don't care if he's running or not. He does NOT have the authority as a CANDIDATE to NEGOTIATE for the USofA." This guy is a great danger to the well being of our country.
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Of Course, this will never hit the main stream media... Nothing like keeping our servicemen and women in the harm's way longer than needed to make him the "Hero" when he is the one brings who brings them home!
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Old 09-17-2008, 09:51 PM
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You know, maybe I'm the only one, but I was thinking that, if it can be proven that he did in fact attempt to do this, that charges should be filed against him.
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In my opinion, Obama is all smoke and mirrors; he's good at rallying people, saying exactly what people want to hear, but in terms of warfare, I think he's a little green around the gills. McCain on the other hand, as you all know, was a Naval Officer who also happened to be a POW. Although a real turn-off is that he doesn't know how to use the computer.
The fact that Obama is willing to do what he did is testament to the fact that he will go to great lengths to win this election.

Ah well. Just this cadet's humble 0.002 cents.
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In my opinion, Obama is all smoke and mirrors; he's good at rallying people, saying exactly what people want to hear, but in terms of warfare, I think he's a little green around the gills. McCain on the other hand, as you all know, was a Naval Officer who also happened to be a POW. Although a real turn-off is that he doesn't know how to use the computer.
The fact that Obama is willing to do what he did is testament to the fact that he will go to great lengths to win this election.

Ah well. Just this cadet's humble 0.002 cents.
It's not that he doesn't know how to use one, it's that the injuries he received when he ejected from his aircraft (which immediately informed him of it's intense displeasure with his allowing it to get blown up by nearly beating him to death) preclude him from being able to use one. He can't extend his arms above his shoulders at all, nor can hold them out for long (like we all have to do when typing) without intense pain.

That whole "he can't use a computer", as if he's too 'dumb' to figure it out, is pure Liberal bovine excrement.
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OOPS, double tap.
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Obama is a superstar, that all. And I agree, he is just somehow miraculously able to raise up a hubub, but at the same time, we never hear on the news what people actually think. Only the ralleys that he originates in far offplaces without any particular rhyme or reason why.

And did anyone watch the DNC, cause that TV was rediculous. To sit there and waste all that money on those televisions, and to still have so many problems in the US... just another show of his false leadership and decision making.
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You know, maybe I'm the only one, but I was thinking that, if it can be proven that he did in fact attempt to do this, that charges should be filed against him.
Good point buddy, but as you say proving it is the issue. If you can find someone with first hand knowledge and the "pills" to testify then yes by all means prosecute.

On a side note this election is going to be ugly, with the obvious racial overtones involved, if for some reason he does not win or if God forbid he does and something happens to him, there's going to be one he** of a mess.
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