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This video shows no respect to the Military and should be reported. How do you report this video to the right people (who are the right people)?
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Old 09-27-2008, 06:30 PM
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THis video shows no respect to the Military and should be reported. How do you report this video to the right prople(who are the right people)?
"And should be reported." - Why? They're entitled to their opinion. I'd be damned the day that Youtube, Myspace, or any other websites remove a video from their website because someone's feelings got hurt.

In response to this video: I couldn't get past 2 minutes of it, because the statements that those people made in the opening minutes of the video are the exact same statements that, to me, make no sense whatsoever. When I hear about people protesting a war, or the military in general, and they bring up service members dying, I just turn my back to them. Take a clue, guys: When people join the military, they know what they can be getting themselves into, so anyone protesting the military on the grounds of "people die", I don't even listen to. Go protest beer too, because you know, people get drunk off of it.

EDIT: I resumed watching the video at about 1:40. Some of these people shouldn't have joined the military if they were joining just for benefits.
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"And should be reported." - Why? They're entitled to their opinion. I'd be damned the day that Youtube, Myspace, or any other websites remove a video from their website because someone's feelings got hurt.

In response to this video: I couldn't get past 2 minutes of it, because the statements that those people made in the opening minutes of the video are the exact same statements that, to me, make no sense whatsoever. When I hear about people protesting a war, or the military in general, and they bring up service members dying, I just turn my back to them. Take a clue, guys: When people join the military, they know what they can be getting themselves into, so anyone protesting the military on the grounds of "people die", I don't even listen to. Go protest beer too, because you know, people get drunk off of it.

EDIT: I resumed watching the video at about 1:40. Some of these people shouldn't have joined the military if they were joining just for benefits.
Your post is correct, they didn't join the military to fight for their country. They joined for college or some other benefit. I appreciate their service but it was for the wrong reason.
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The first thing you see when you look at my MySpace is a smaller version of my sig graphic and this blurb:

I am a SOLDIER serving in our nation's military, and I enjoy doing what I do as such. I am here on my own accord, not because some recruiting campaign suckered me in. I may not agree with everything in the world today, but I will go where I'm told to go and do what I'm told to do. I serve to make the world a better place for everybody, whether you like it or not. "If you can't stand behind our troops, feel free to stand in front of them."

The benefits are nothing but an added plus. I use my benefits as I see fit. In my field, that means on job experience with computers, and practical leadership experience (hey, those two things alone make me marketable for other companies when I finally do get out) as well as technical certifications. Add in the college degree I'll get and I'd say that when my time is done I've gained a lot from the service.

As far as right now goes, they take care of me. Medical is covered, and has been completely taken advantage of (i.e. wisdom teeth pulled and issuing of $800 orthotic insoles), and should something happen my family won't go in debt trying to take care of everything. I have a guaranteed income, and so long as I am responsible, will not find myself in massive debt. I've gotten to travel overseas, without paying a dime for the transportation, and experience another culture for a year. So I'd say all in all, the service is good to their members, whether or not they agree with that opinion (and they usually don't realize it till later on).
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When I enlisted in the Marines I got no benefits, I'm not in for the money (if I wanted the money I would try to attain a commission). I enlisted because I want to fight for my country, uphold the Constitution and to ultimately to uphold the honor of the Marine Corps.
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When I enlisted in the Marines I got no benefits, I'm not in for the money(if i wanted the money I would try to attain a commission). I enlisted because I want to fight for my country,uphold the constitution and to ultimately to uphold the honor of the Marine Corps.
Are you confusing service benefits and signing bonuses? Because as far as I know, certain benefits like medical care are available to all Active Duty service members.

And Officers really don't make much either, compared to civilian jobs comparable to what they do in the military.

I have watched the entire video before, and I felt that the things mentioned probably do happen, to a few people, but they completely overexaggerated everything.

You know, it is interesting to note, most protestors and activists are civilians that have never even been in a recruiters office, you don't see a lot of former service members making such a big fuss. There are some, of course, but not a lot. Interesting.
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What I meant by the Money issue is that a newly commissioned Second Lieutenant makes $50,000 a year (if you were in the National Guard before that you make $58,600 a year). That is more than most civilian jobs. I never got a bonus for enlisting (my friend James Powell got $35,000 for enlisting in the Army). I didn't enlist for any other reason except for my love of this great country and the greatest (don't take this in the wrong way it is my Opinion) military force, the United States Marine Corps. My heart and mind are always with the Corps, I love it more than anything except for God.
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When I enlisted in the Marines I got no benefits, I'm not in for the money(if i wanted the money I would try to attain a commission). I enlisted because I want to fight for my country,uphold the constitution and to ultimately to uphold the honor of the Marine Corps.

That's exactly the same reason I'm enlisting. Yeah, I know I could get hurt/killed, guess what, I'm fine with that. This Country has given me more opurtunity's than I would get any where alse, this Country means more to me than my own life, and if it's Gods will, (I pray to Him every day that it is) I will serve. At the same time though, DFL, it's important to remember that in the Military you are defending the U.S Constitution which INCLUDES the First Amendmant. Do I agree with people who protest our Military? Hell no, I tell every protesting hippie off I see, but remember, It's our job to fight for their right to say stupid S*** like that.


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C/Zoomie I agree with you completely, and I am glad to see somebody else who is willing to risk their life for this great country (and all the Mod's who are and have risked their lives).
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C/Zoomie I agree with you completly, and I am glad to see somebody else who is willing to risk there life for this great country(and all the Mod's who are and have risked there life).
+1 to that. A Salute to all who have served
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