Too political

[Murray B]

This forum used to be a good place to come and find interesting things about the military. It was free from the usual faults of most forums.

As a Canadian I am neither Democrat or Republican as weren’t my parents and grandparents before me. It is pretty obvious to me when a disagreement in your country is politically motivated.

As a former educator I am sensitive to having my real identity disclosed on a forum like this. A few years ago I had a student that wanted me to add a few percent to his grade. I asked him if he wanted me to re-grade his assignments. He said no but he needed a few more percent to bring his GPA up to the next step. I refused and he said “I know where you live”. Two months later I had an 18” scratch right down to the metal on the hood of my new car. I called the police who said that since no one saw anything there was nothing they could do. Later I learned from other students that he was a gang member and a drug dealer so I guess I was lucky to just get a scratch.

The last thing I need right now is some kook damaging my car or throwing a rock through my window because they disagree with something I’ve posted.

The recent ‘feeding frenzy’ is obviously politically motivated as shown by the following:

“I only wish it was election time so he would still be in the public eye in AZ...”

“Oh you know he's trolling out there reading, sweating and most likely pi$$ing his political future away.”

“I am telling you point blank that I have full intention of contacting your local paper in AZ and giving them everything I have.”

“Your future political career is going to the toilet as well...”

As a certified network administrator [‘computer guy’] I have a legal obligation to protect the privacy of my users. I am not the admin for this forum but the obvious violation of privacy for one of your members means that I really shouldn’t be coming here anymore.

Thanks for all the interesting converstations anyway, Eh!

[Ben Shotalot]

Ummm, HE is the one who put his name and other info out there, and used his military "resume" to gain rewards. Including politics. What he did was illegal.

If someone came along and claimed to have all the certifications to be a network administrator, and used them to gain favor and benefits, only to find out later that is was all falsehood, wouldn't you want to make it publically known so that all would be forewarned?!? Wouldn't you want to see justice done?

Nobody likes a lair, especially one who tries for political office or to use unearned influence over others. No one called for something illegal or violent done to him.

Get real.

[Murray B]

Originally Posted by Ben Shotalot

Get real.

Thanks Ben, but I am so real I am unreal. Someone, not me, has already contacted the FBI.

To claim Stolen Valor you must show the claims were public and this is going to be hard since I had never heard any of this until yesterday and I pay attention.

Otherwise you must show he was never a Marine and if he has his paperwork then that won't happen.

There is a reason that active duty personnell do not express political opinions. It does not help the U.S. Army to take sides in a political debate.

Wait for it.

Good luck, Eh!

[ang1sgt]

Originally Posted by Murray B

Otherwise you must show he was never a Marine and if he has his paperwork then that won't happen.

No Sir, It is also for those that claim awards and decorations they have not earned also. Just thought you should know.

[MOM]

I would just add, Murry, that HEB many times put his own personal info out
here, even asking for campaign donations, and also he had a link to his
personal blog in his signature line. Nobody here "outted" his personal ID.
He did that on his own. And you are way off base with your post.

[txb&b]

In addition to what's already been said, I would like to point out that his exposure was NOT politically motivated. U.S. troops take their service seriously - to the point that posers and those who claim awards that weren't earned are dealt with instead of ignored. The only reason politics got drug into it was because HE was running for public office on credentials he hadn't earned and the voters have a right to know if a candidate is dishonest.

[wukong]

Are you implying that Hairyeyeball is now on a vendetta with other forum members as a target?

[Ben Shotalot]

Originally Posted by Murray B

To claim Stolen Valor you must show the claims were public and this is going to be hard since I had never heard any of this until yesterday and I pay attention.

So, if a tree fell in the forest and everybody but you were there, does that mean it didn't make a noise?

Originally Posted by Murray B

Otherwise you must show he was never a Marine and if he has his paperwork then that won't happen.

Wrong.

Originally Posted by Murray B

There is a reason that active duty personnell do not express political opinions.

We don't in uniform which would make us representatives and ambassadors of the military. We can on our own accord, and out of uniform.

Originally Posted by Murray B

It does not help the U.S. Army to take sides in a political debate.

No one here took sides on his (or anyone else’s) politics. I personally agree with many, if not most, of his political views. You are WAY off base here.

Originally Posted by Murray B

Wait for it.

Good luck, Eh!

You must be from Canada where no one can say anything bad about someone else without getting into trouble by the government. Kool-aid taste good up there, eh?

[Ben Shotalot]

Originally Posted by Murray B

Thanks Ben, but I am so real I am unreal. Someone, not me, has already contacted the FBI.

Are you saying that someone from this board reported HE to the FBI, or that someone you know has reported this board to the FBI?

If the latter, then does.....

Originally Posted by Murray B

Wait for it.
Good luck, Eh!

mean that those on the board should watch our back?

I'm gonna error on the side of good will and think it the former, and that "Good luck" just means "see ya".

Although I still don't know what you mean by "wait for it". I haven't had my morning coffee yet.

[mtnsldr]

Thanks for stopping by.