New Class A's(oh goodness no)

[abulafia]

If any of you subscribe to Army Times you may have seen the new Class A's. I definitly do not like them, what happened to "tradition", well now its streamlining. Here's a link... I think you will also be dissapointed.

New Army Dress Uniform (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://bp0.blogger.com/_LgarEWu2nK8/RkfTJHcD-BI/AAAAAAAAAH0/895rFqzrk1A/s400/Army%2BService%2BUniform.bmp&imgrefurl=http://chaplainmarkolson.blogspot.com/2007/05/new-army-service-uniform.html&h=203&w=400&sz=20&hl=en&start=2&usg=__5xkWo50yYB7OtnaGSV-AtimTlg0=&tbnid=rF1--MY-G8sOUM:&tbnh=63&tbnw=124&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dnew%2BArmy%2BUniforms%26gbv%3D2%26hl% 3Den)

[PhilK]

Actually, that link is incorrect. The Army decided to go with the white shirt as opposed to the grey shirt.

Here is a better link: http://www.army.mil/asu/index.html

I love the fact that we are going to the Dress Blues as our standard dress uniform. Since getting my commission I have worn my Blues more then my Greens and think the Blues look sharper and more professional then the Greens.

[Ben Shotalot]

Never mind.... correct link was posted before I was able to reply.

BTW, for those of use who have been there and done that.... and would have to wear these things..... THEY SUCK. :devil:

I'll never wear them. They will change anyway before the required date as the outrage within the ranks is so loud.

I don't want to look like a TSA agent!

[SGM]

It wouldn't be the Army if the didn't change the uniform once in a while. The nice thing about it is I don't have to worry about it anymore.

[SlightlyCatholic]

How many times do Soldiers actually expect to wear their Dress Uniforms? It seems to me that all the recruiting now points to an Army in operational tempo that only wears ACUs.

[Ben Shotalot]

How many times do Soldiers actually expect to wear their Dress Uniforms? It seems to me that all the recruiting now points to an Army in operational tempo that only wears ACUs.

Which is totally screwed up! The ACU is a combat uniform, not a service uniform. The ACU also hides the fat bodies. Any other sort of "dress" or formal attire will not allow fat bodies to hide behind the camouflage.

I wear my greens and my blues quite often. The service uniform should be the uniform for day to day wear while the ACU (a combat uniform) should be worn in the field only. There are coveralls for shops and motor pools, and mess service uniforms for those types of work environments.

My two cents.

:recon:

[PhilK]

The service uniform should be the uniform for day to day wear while the ACU (a combat uniform) should be worn in the field only.



I concur.

Of course Soldiers would complain about up keep costs, etc. but I think if you sit in an office day in and day out then you should be in your Class Bs. (Which would currently apply to me. :sleepy: )

There are plenty of TDA units out there that this would apply to.

[armysc_25b]

I'm currently in a shop that we mainly sit in the office. However, being that we do equipment installs and work with electronics, a Dress uniform may not be as appropriate for our environment as ACU's.

When I read the article about the AF going to "Blue Monday", my first thought was "How long before the Army takes this up?" IMNSHO, I have no problem wearing my B's to work. At the same time, however, when they start wanting us to wear awards and decorations that's going to cause problems in my environment.

[BronzeGoat]

You wouldn't wear B's in an environment where a fatigue uniform would be more appropriate anyway. I wear the Green uniform more than any of the others, and I wouldn't mind seeing it go away, but I believe the ASU went way off in the wrong direction. IMHO, the "streamlining" the brass have been going on about should have been applied to the uniform accoutrements as well. I'm done complaining about it though. My hope is that this will go the way of McPeak's officer cuff-rings. That didn't last much more than a couple of months after his tenure in office as AF Chief of Staff. Maybe the current configuration of the ASU will go the same way.

[PaulR]

IMNSHO, I have no problem wearing my B's to work. At the same time, however, when they start wanting us to wear awards and decorations that's going to cause problems in my environment.

SFC,

What problems would wearing your awards and decorations cause?

[Ben Shotalot]

SFC,

What problems would wearing your awards and decorations cause?

Are you talking to me or BronzeGoat? "armysc_25b" made the comment you posted above and he is a SPC. :D

And if I may answer that question - when you are crawling around vehicles you don't want stuff to catch on things. Ribbon sets get expensive and you don't want them tore up. However, in armysc_25b's case, he shouldn't be wearing that uniform when he is working in a shop.

ACU's don't work well in a shop environment for similar reasons (velco, patches catch on things and they don't take stains very well). Coveralls should be the uniform of the day in that environment.

Something I wanted to mention earlier - why the hell don't we go back to having enlisted rank on the sleeve? That's got tradition!

:recon:

[PaulR]

Are you talking to me or BronzeGoat? "armysc_25b" made the comment you posted above and he is a SPC. :D


Sorry about that. It was a key stroke error. lol:D I was talking to the Specialist!

I see your point, regarding the uniform/ribbons. I would not even understand wearing the Bs at all in that environment.

[armysc_25b]

The good SFC beat the SPC to the punch...

Exactly what I was going to say. Though our tasks are being shared more now, the Soldiers in my shop are still responsible for equipment moves, performing PM's on the systems, and other tasks that dress uniforms would suck to wear. The velcro, personally I haven't had an issue with it catching. However, I could almost guarantee that I would manage to catch my ribbons on something and make a big mess somewhere along the line.

BTW, thanks for the promotion. It'd be the first time someone with 3 years in made that rank that fast!

[Billyd]

The good SFC beat the SPC to the punch...


As any good SFC will, but the SPC should be right there with the correct answer anyway :devil:

[reddog]

Kaki's, tucked into jump boots, neatly bloused with creases that would cut your steak and an infantry blue fourragere hanging from a starched blouse. Cool as a jewel, but doubt if many remember my class A's. Good golly, I miss the day...
Easy Brother,
Reddog...

[Brighteous]

As far as I can tell the new uniform is just giving the old dress blues a more casual option. Plus adding the service cap for officers is definatly a little peice of tradition you never see anymore.

But does anyone know if mess dress is being changed or done away with in lieu of the ASU?

[63Bravo]

Myself, I am glad to see the Army heading in this direction. The Green Class A was a nice uniform for awhile, but it is dated now, and now is as good a time as any to consolidate 2 or 3 uniforms into 1, IMO.

As my name here implies, I am a wrench turner and have to agree that the ACU is a useless uniform for mechanics, the tan boots being the worst part. There is no cleaner available that will remove a GO-90W stain from them, or get the smell of JP-8 out of them, so you must maintain multiple pairs of boots at all times.

[dukesix]

Hmmmmmmm. They're at it again. Somebody at Clothing Sales is going to get rich. Well, not really....but I can't remember so many changes in uniforms from all branches of the military...in such a short amount of time. Or is it just me? Doesn't look that bad.....yet I'm not overly impressed. Marine dress blues still the best.

Dukesix

[SlightlyCatholic]

Our military branches these days seem like a rebellious teenager who keeps changing the way he dresses to find his identity. Is our military going through an identity crisis as we begin the 21st century?

[SGM]

Hmmmmmmm. They're at it again. Somebody at Clothing Sales is going to get rich. Well, not really....but I can't remember so many changes in uniforms from all branches of the military...in such a short amount of time. Or is it just me? Doesn't look that bad.....yet I'm not overly impressed. Marine dress blues still the best.

Dukesix

You're probably right on the Clothing Sales bit. And you are right about the Marine Dress Blues - they do have class. The Army Blues have class and tradition, but they(Army) tends to wonder a bit and can't make up their minds.

[mtnsldr]

The biggest problem with uniform implementation for me is that they always seem to get to the 70% solution and call it good.

For instance, its a dress uniform. I don't see the need for multiple versions, but it needs to fill the void from A's to Whites, and this one doesn't. The service and overseas stripes are weak in the A's version. They could have come up with a much more "dressy" version such as the NCO full wrap stripes.

The loss of patches on the uniform is useless in my opinion. This is a uniform item that has become a signature of the Army, so much so that other military departments have begun to produce them for when Army units work under their commands. Instead we choose to lose them entirely on our dress uniform and go to a badge? Tacky.

Against all others (probably) I think the beret was a good idea. Keep it with the dress uniform, and make it an option to wear the bus drivers cap based on the level of dress required. Makes sense.

I don't know, I think overall it is a good concept, and appreciate the intent to move toward one dress uniform, and I like that it was the blue one (going back to our pre-WW2 roots). I just wish it didn't seem like a rushed concept without much thought (just like the ACU).

What I care about far more however is the eradication of 4 different combat uniforms for 4 different services, and one DOD wide accepted combat uniform that will limit fratricide should we go back to traditional manuever warfare.

[Spider]

What I care about far more however is the eradication of 4 different combat uniforms for 4 different services, and one DOD wide accepted combat uniform that will limit fratricide should we go back to traditional manuever warfare.

It might be wise to get something that's capabilities as DPM extend outside of cement factories and large car parks...

[Ben Shotalot]

It might be wise to get something that's capabilities as DPM extend outside of cement factories and large car parks...

Ha ha haha! Yea. No Sh*t!

:recon:

[ClearShot89]

Yeah I deffinately do not like the new Class A's because any branch of the Army in general should wear a Class A unifrom that resembles green. I mean, and I'm not disrespecting the Navy, but white and blue is their colors, green is Army, blue is Air Force, and brown/red with black is Marines. Or so that's what my mind thinks.

[PhilK]

Yeah I deffinately do not like the new Class A's because any branch of the Army in general should wear a Class A unifrom that resembles green. I mean, and I'm not disrespecting the Navy, but white and blue is their colors, green is Army, blue is Air Force, and brown/red with black is Marines. Or so that's what my mind thinks.

Unless you actually take time to look at the history of the Army uniforms and realize that there have been Blue uniforms in the Army's inventory since basiclly the formation of the Army in 1775.

[mtnsldr]

And to extend your history lesson:

The Air Force has blue because it used to be part of the Army.

The Navy/Marines have blue because it was the standard when military forces were established in this country, essentially coming from the same origins as the Army's blue.

[SlightlyCatholic]

This might shed some light on what Mtnsldr was talking about:

Wearing Army Blue: a 200-year Tradition
By Walter H. Bradford

TODAY’S Soldier wears uniforms of green and tan, plain and camouflage, and Army Blue.

During the American Revolution, when the British Army of King George III turned out in red, Gen. George Washington specified blue for the Continental Army uniform coat in 1779. Regulations of 1821 reiterated that the Army would wear the national blue, and blue remained the only color of the Army uniform until 1902, with the adoption of the khaki and olive drab service dress. In 1954, the Army adopted the Army Green.

Still, Army Blue has remained in service as the service uniform, and its story is that of the Army and the nation.

Army Blue emerged from 18th century warfare, when battle formations required Soldiers to stand elbow to elbow with smoothbore muskets, and colorful uniforms provided unit cohesion amid the clouds of black-powder smoke.

To distinguish among units of the Continental Army after 1779, uniforms displayed colored facings on the collar, cuffs and lapels of the blue coat, by group of states, not regiment, as in Europe.

For example, Soldiers from New York and New Jersey wore buff facings. Soldiers from the New England states had white facings, while red distinguished the Soldiers of Pennsylvania, Delaware, Maryland and Virginia, and blue identified Soldiers from the Carolinas and Georgia.

As the new nation grew, the government provided each Soldier with an annual uniform. It consisted of a single blue wool coat and seasonal issues of white wool and linen or cotton waistcoat and overalls.

There was no distinction between a dress and undress uniform. A Soldier’s daily attire for field service was also his parade dress, and the rank-and-file lived out of their knapsacks until the next issue.

By 1810 Napoleonic fashion had changed the cut of the uniform worn since the Revolutionary War. The coat now fastened in front and no longer exposed the waistcoat. That garment had become the roundabout fatigue jacket with sleeves, in winter gray or summer white. The skirts of the coat were cut in, straight across, without color facings.

To avoid the stains of winter mud on Soldiers’ white pantaloons or overalls, annual clothing allowances, as early as 1817, provided for the issue of more practical grey, and by 1832 Soldiers were wearing light blue trousers. This established the traditional contrasting color scheme that avoided the difficult color-match of blue coat and trousers worn by generals and staff officers. Encouraged by the excess of military dress in Europe, American uniforms became more elaborate.

Returning were epaulettes for Soldiers of all grades and the facing colors established during the Revolutionary War. Army officers and noncommissioned officers wore stripes on the trousers, and metal insignia for each branch also appeared on Soldiers’ tall, felt uniform caps.

Earlier, in 1829, officers had received an undress garment, a full-skirt frock coat to replace non-regulation civilian attire. In place of epaulettes, this coat introduced the shoulder strap. Refined in 1835, from the lace bridle used to secure the epaulette to the shoulder of the uniform coat, it helped develop the gold and silver officer insignia of grade.

However, with undress and fatigue uniforms being worn in the Seminole and Mexican Wars and the costs of the old-style elaborate uniforms becoming a concern for officers, a radical new uniform concept appeared in 1851.

A French-pattern, full-skirt tunic or frock coat with black-leather waist belt accoutrements began to replace the old body coat and the white shoulder belts worn since 1810.

By the time of the Civil War, years of field service encouraged the use of practical and comfortable uniform components. The forage cap borrowed the metal insignia from the uniform hat, and the tailored frock coat soon gave way to the loose-fitting sack coat or blouse, first adopted in 1858 for fatigue duty.

After 1872 regulations acknowledged distinctive uniforms for the field and for ceremonial occasions. This confirmed a five-button blouse for general-duty wear and a frock coat or tunic, of European style, for dress occasions and not campaign. Adopted also from Europe was a black felt helmet with plume for mounted troops and a metal spike for others.

By the end of the 19th Century, the Army Blue uniform had weathered the extremes of frontier duty and tropical fights. It traveled from garrison to the field by merely exchanging the natty blue forage cap for the wide-brim slouch campaign hat and by securing the sky-blue trousers cuffs with a pair of cavalry boots or infantry canvas leggings.

But in 1902 foreign duty and the advent of smokeless powder required a service uniform for wear in both garrison and the field, and in seasonal fabrics of summer khaki or winter olive drab.

Traditional blue remained but only for dress, with officers authorized full, special evening and mess service uniforms, while enlisted issue ceased in 1917.

Experiments after World War II sought to look to the future and reinvent the dress of the American Soldier. The old service olive drab became the new Modern Army Green in 1954, and black shoes became a common shade for all services, ending the russet worn since the Spanish-American War. That same uniform, with some modifications and the addition of the black beret, is essentially the Class A uniform of today.

But that time also saw Army Blue return to stay. For more than 200 years Soldiers have enjoyed the distinct honor and privilege, first established by George Washington, of wearing the national blue – Army Blue.

(Editor’s note: Walter H. Bradford is a museum curator with the U.S. Army Center of Military History.)

Link at: http://www.army.mil/symbols/uniforms/history.html

[Eupher]

Well, it's pretty clear that the Army wanted to dispel one of the two more formal uniforms in the clothing bag - greens or blues.

While the blue uniform has a much longer tradition within the Army (lots of good information on that above), the Army green service uniform dates from only the mid-Fifties. That uniform came out of the real cluster-bang that characterized WWII and Korea, at least from a uniform perspective. The Head Shed wanted to standardize and otherwise get everyone on the same page, at least with respect to the color of the uniform and the style/type of cloth.

Because the Army is beholden to the uniform manufacturers and because the Army changes things not necessarily to make them better but rather to force money in the pockets of the uniform manufacturers, every couple years or so there will be yet another change that forces Soldiers to dig into their pockets and buy yet another uniform article.

When I enlisted in the mid-Seventies, I was issued the poplin shirt, winter AND summer-weight dress greens. Three sets of khakis, a very nice woolen overcoat and a separate raincoat. The usual black boots and low quarters were part of the clothing bag, as were a couple of garrison caps and a service (bus driver's) cap. Don't let me forget the cotton fatigues.

It didn't take long for the cotton fatigues (with white T-shirts) to be replaced by the permanent press variety. And not too long after that, the poplin shirts went away, to be replaced by the gray-green shirt. (And speaking of the gray-green shirt, initially you had to wear the bright brass pin-on rank insignia (if you were enlisted) with the shoulder marks reserved for officers and warrants). When the pin-on rank insignia began destroying shirt collars, they opted for the black shoulder marks for NCOs. (I guess they figured that the lower enlisted shirt collars were immune to the same sorts of destructive power that seemed to affect NCO shirt collars, but I digress.)

Fast forward to the woolie-pullie sweater, the windbreaker, and the all-season coat.

The all-season coat was my absolute favorite. It truly made one look like a large lump of coal. (And it did a deplorable job of keeping you dry.)

Back to fatigues. Those were replaced in Oct. 83 by the BDU uniform, Version 1. (The white T-shirt had to go, of course, and was replaced by a green T-shirt. Even that wasn't good enough and within a couple of years, the Army went to a brown T-shirt for the BDU uniform.) Various other versions of the BDU were to follow, including summer weight, and they even were completely redesigned due to a ridiculously large, floppy collar and hip-hugging trousers. (Grenada was a very telling operation on a multitude of fronts.)

One thing remained constant - black boots. Spitshined those on a regular basis.

One uniform that went away that should've gone away - the Army ceremonial blues uniform (worn by bands and, I believe, the Old Guard). That uniform made you look like a doorman at the Waldorf Astoria.

So uniform changes occur, whether of not it serves a purpose.

Gotta keep uniform makers in business - it's what the Army does.

Among other things, of course. :D

[Spider]

During the American Revolution, when the British Army of King George III turned out in red, Gen. George Washington specified blue for the Continental Army uniform coat in 1779.

We originally wanted blue (for the New Model Army during the English Civil Wars), but the dye was apparently more expensive than red.

Really you just need to get some uniforms that have less stuff on them, you might look like you're impersonating Ja Rule, too much of the 'bling bling' off Ebay.

[mtnsldr]

Whatever Spider. You know you'll be jealous when you see me rollin' with my homies on Saturday night.

[SlightlyCatholic]

I don't know, I think something like this would look pretty sick with Class A's. Maybe Silver for Enlisted and Gold for Officers?

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y150/Saltlick/Sub3/paulWall_grill.jpg

[Spider]

Whatever Spider. You know you'll be jealous when you see me rollin' with my homies on Saturday night.

I see, black man stolen your wife again? Never mind, I'm sure the Mexican won't get your job.

Maybe Silver for Enlisted and Gold for Officers?


Only general officers should have the gold grills, strictly for OGs.

Anyway outside of the USMC American dress and service uniforms look a bit silly, and thats only because they bear a striking similarity to an even better uniform. Why even the mighty rapper (and naval avee-ay-toh) Half-Dollar agrees.

Large photograph.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6e/50_Cent%2C_Lloyd_Banks_%26_Tony_Yayo_at_Rider_Pt_2 _video_shoot.jpg

Still that looks like split rig, does a captain rate scrambled eggs?

[SlightlyCatholic]

I see, black man stolen your wife again? Never mind, I'm sure the Mexican won't get your job.



Only general officers should have the gold grills, strictly for OGs.

Anyway outside of the USMC American dress and service uniforms look a bit silly, and thats only because they bear a striking similarity to an even better uniform. Why even the mighty rapper (and naval avee-ay-toh) Half-Dollar agrees.

Large photograph.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6e/50_Cent%2C_Lloyd_Banks_%26_Tony_Yayo_at_Rider_Pt_2 _video_shoot.jpg (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6e/50_Cent%2C_Lloyd_Banks_%26_Tony_Yayo_at_Rider_Pt_2 _video_shoot.jpg)

Still that looks like split rig, does a captain rate scrambled eggs?

He probably got that cover from the candy shop..."Fitty" does what he wants. Although, if this were Timbaland, he would just tell us that's "the way I are."

[HairyEyeball]

Yeah I deffinately do not like the new Class A's because any branch of the Army in general should wear a Class A unifrom that resembles green. I mean, and I'm not disrespecting the Navy, but white and blue is their colors, green is Army, blue is Air Force, and brown/red with black is Marines. Or so that's what my mind thinks.

Child, when you are conversant enough with the English language, you might have mommy drive you to the library to do a little research: What branch specified buff breeches and waistcoat with a blue coat as its uniform?

[HairyEyeball]

And to extend your history lesson:

The Air Force has blue because it used to be part of the Army.

The Navy/Marines have blue because it was the standard when military forces were established in this country, essentially coming from the same origins as the Army's blue.

Not quite historically accurate, Cap'n: Marines originally fell out in white breeches and green coats (and black leather stocks).

[dukesix]

Well Spider.....red makes such an easy target....could see you guys about 5 miles away..
Just kidding..just kidding.:devil:

Dukesix

[Scrappy]

Myself, I am glad to see the Army heading in this direction. The Green Class A was a nice uniform for awhile, but it is dated now, and now is as good a time as any to consolidate 2 or 3 uniforms into 1, IMO.

As my name here implies, I am a wrench turner and have to agree that the ACU is a useless uniform for mechanics, the tan boots being the worst part. There is no cleaner available that will remove a GO-90W stain from them, or get the smell of JP-8 out of them, so you must maintain multiple pairs of boots at all times.


63Bravo.......Light wheel mechanic?? (sounds a bit familiar, seems I have heard that designator before....please refresh my memory??)

[mtnsldr]

You got it.

[PhoenixCadet]

I don't want to look like a TSA agent!

Over on the military.com forums - I've heard a few Army guys say it looks more like a VFW or American Legion uniform! :o

[Scrappy]

You got it.


I am ALMOST impressed with myself for remembering that from my cadet days at Ft Huachuca. But not quite :D


Then yes, 63Bravo, I agree with you, anything but coveralls and regular boots would be EXTREMELY difficult to deal with.


Although, I don't know how I would feel if I were told I had to wear Class A's to work most of the time.........

I know someone said that the ACU's hide fatbodies, but they also cover..umm...female 'curves'.......I do NOT want to sound prideful and conceited here in ANY WAY, people....please please please don't take this the wrong way, I will just say that I "got it from my momma", how's that?

I wore a sharp uniform eveywhere I went, but Class A days always netted more 'attention', if you will, than the ACU days. So I was always more comfortable in the looser fitting clothing. (and it just occured to me that I am speaking to forum full of military males who are probably thinking "Yeah, that's the idea, DUH!") But the females would agree with me, I think!!

I think it's time to go take a coffee break..............

[BronzeGoat]

They should bring back the old fore-and-aft hat for officers (except those in the grades W-1 through W-5). They deserve a snappy appearance.

Seriously though, given the product of the Army's recent uniform escapades, I'd rather have kept the Green and White uniforms than end up with what we have now. With all the accoutrements standing out of the dark blue jacket I'm going to look like a DPRK Grand Marshal, with a slightly smaller service cap.

[13B_Warrior]

I looked over the link that the major posted, and have one question: Will I have to pay to get the new blues, or will I simply have to turn in my greens? I ask this because my supply sergeant does not currently have an answer for me.

KING OF BATTLE!
13B

[PhilK]

I looked over the link that the major posted, and have one question: Will I have to pay to get the new blues, or will I simply have to turn in my greens? I ask this because my supply sergeant does not currently have an answer for me.


They will just issue it to you, and probably won't care about taking back your Greens.

[13B_Warrior]

Roger, and thanks, Major.

Gentlemen, please continue with the debate.

KING OF BATTLE!
13B

[army_grunt_11B]

I think the new Class A's will look really good for recruiters, I don't like how they have to wear ACU's 24/7 was not a good idea, especially when you have USMC, USAF, USN, and USCG members wearing respective Class A's, and then you have an Army recruiter in ACU's, it just doesn't look good.

[SlightlyCatholic]

Isn't the purpose of recruiting with the ACU to attract potential recruits who appeal to the "Army at War" image? It's very rare to see a commercial now with soldiers wearing Class A uniforms and talking about their experiences. Rather, what you see now are soldiers down and dirty jumping out of planes and such. I think the image of the fighting, ACU wearing soldier gives the public a different impression of the US Army than of a soldier giving a testimonial in his dress uniform.

[HairyEyeball]

I think the new Class A's will look really good for recruiters, I don't like how they have to wear ACU's 24/7 was not a good idea, especially when you have USMC, USAF, USN, and USCG members wearing respective Class A's, and then you have an Army recruiter in ACU's, it just doesn't look good.

You might just take the time to check your facts before posting, son. Marine Recruiters do not wear 'Class A's', that would be the forest green uniform with blouse and field scarf. They wear the 'Class C Blue' uniform: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/59/PlateIV_Enlisted_Dress_Uniform.jpg/180px-PlateIV_Enlisted_Dress_Uniform.jpg (far right in picture).

[army_grunt_11B]

I think the new Class A's will look really good for recruiters, I don't like how they have to wear ACU's 24/7 was not a good idea, especially when you have USMC, USAF, USN, and USCG members wearing respective Class A's, and then you have an Army recruiter in ACU's, it just doesn't look good.


You might just take the time to check your facts before posting, son. Marine Recruiters do not wear 'Class A's', that would be the forest green uniform with blouse and field scarf. They wear the 'Class C Blue' uniform: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/59/PlateIV_Enlisted_Dress_Uniform.jpg/180px-PlateIV_Enlisted_Dress_Uniform.jpg (far right in picture).

I appologize, I didn't specify for each Service, I figured by putting "respective class A's" since your right, I do not know what every single uniform every service wears, I know Army, so I appologize for making that statement.