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Drill for life
12-07-2008, 01:17 PM
In the CSM Tips Thread a Cadet wanted to know how to make Color Guard practices more Efficent, so I started a new Thread for this purpose.
My units Color Guard are made up of Drill Team members so we only have to run through our Routine one time so the Rifles and Flags are Snychronized.
if you have anything to add please post it.

TruBlu
12-07-2008, 05:11 PM
A good Color Guard is a well timed Color Guard. Your flag bearers and riflemen should have the same amount of counts for every movement. For example: In AFJROTC, the command "Carry Colors" is four counts: Riflemen go to "Right Shoulder" (cross the rifle up (1), grasp the butt of the rifle with the right hand (2), pivot the rifle and bring it in (3), drop the left hand (4). Flag Bearers go to "Carry" (bring the flag up and in front (1), position the flag directly over the cup/holster/carrier (2), drop the flag into the cup/holster/carrier (3), drop the left hand to the cup/holster/carrier (4). If you notice, those movements are essentially the same: Bring the flag/rifle up (1), ready the flag/rifle for position (2), position the flag/rifle (3), drop the left hand (4). Seeing as this is AJROTC compared to AFJROTC, there won't be much of a difference in the routine, if one at all. I suggest that Color Guards practice this until the timing is as close to perfect as possible, and then some. Once you have mastered the "Carry Colors," you can move on to the "Order Colors," "Present Colors," "Eyes Left/Right," and the casing/'uncasing' procedures (if applicable).

Like I said, it's all about timing, even the 'little' things like "Carry Colors."

Drill for life
12-08-2008, 10:53 AM
Here is how we do Color Guards
1.In the Beginning of the Year we have Color Guard Practices(For like eight weeks)
2.If we have a Color Guard we practice for a Hour the Day before, just so everybody has good timing.
That is what we do, why waste time to have a Color Guard team, its easier to just have experienced Cadets do it and Teach LET 1's and LET 2's so we don't have to do it anymore. I have done every Color Guard for the Pat two Years.

TruBlu
12-08-2008, 03:45 PM
why waste time to have a Color Guard team

Um, Color Guard isn't a team per say, it's a service rendered. Also, even if you did want to call it a team, it would be a separate entity of any other team your unit has and would compete on it's own. Those who are "wasting their time with a Color Guard team" are doing it because they may or may not have a drill team. Have you thought about that?

Color Guard is not just a competition you do a few times a year. It's about the only real service we, as JROTC cadets, really put into the community while retaining a military aspect. There are units who have Color Guard teams, and solely that. I see no problem with it.

ufcfootballfan
12-13-2008, 09:42 PM
In our Battalion, Color Guard is a service and a team. We perform at functions the community asks us to such as memorial services. We also have the team side. We have practice on Mondays, and Wednesdays, from 3:00 to 4:30 PM. I cannot find a efficient way of teaching the Color Guard movements to the cadets.

-BuLL-
12-13-2008, 10:02 PM
It's about the only real service we, as JROTC cadets, really put into the community while retaining a military aspect.



Do you not have an Honor Guard? I've done just about as many events with the Honor Guard as with the Color Guard. What do you usually do for your homecoming? We usually do our homecoming as well as local universities.

ufcfootballfan
12-13-2008, 10:07 PM
Yes, we do have an Honor Guard. It is headed by my Battalion Commander. We do many events with the Honor Guard, more important events though such as events performed for the mayor, etc. For home coming, we just present the colors during the National Anthem and then we leave.

-BuLL-
12-13-2008, 11:40 PM
My post was aimed at TruBlu but that's ok. We do lots of events with Honor Guard. I've done one for my Gov. and a Spanish ambassador. The Lt.Gov. and lots of other stuff.

Our Color Guard was once invited to do the Color Guard for a Memphis Grizzlies basketball game, but we couldn't go.

TruBlu
12-14-2008, 10:00 AM
Do you not have an Honor Guard? I've done just about as many events with the Honor Guard as with the Color Guard. What do you usually do for your homecoming? We usually do our homecoming as well as local universities.

It's odd actually. We "have" both, but the cadets who do Color Guard also do our Honor Guard. There are only four to eight people willing to do these at any given time, and that maximum is pretty much set in stone. Sad I know, but we don't have much support any more.

TruBlu
12-14-2008, 10:03 AM
In our Battalion, Color Guard is a service and a team. We perform at functions the community asks us to such as memorial services. We also have the team side. We have practice on Mondays, and Wednesdays, from 3:00 to 4:30 PM. I cannot find a efficient way of teaching the Color Guard movements to the cadets.

To teach, you do, and have them do as well. If you have the manpower, have a full Color Guard show them the movements and break them down visually. Then have the other cadets form up and do them as well. You could even, and I strongly recommend this, have the cadets switch positions during practice, so they have an understanding of the full Color Guard. If you lack the manpower, form them up and guide them through the steps. Focus on individuals rather than the whole Color Guard at once.

C/SSGT Seifer
12-16-2008, 09:06 PM
Um, Color Guard isn't a team per say, it's a service rendered. Also, even if you did want to call it a team, it would be a separate entity of any other team your unit has and would compete on it's own. Those who are "wasting their time with a Color Guard team" are doing it because they may or may not have a drill team. Have you thought about that?

Color Guard is not just a competition you do a few times a year. It's about the only real service we, as JROTC cadets, really put into the community while retaining a military aspect. There are units who have Color Guard teams, and solely that. I see no problem with it.
Our color guard (unarmed) practices in the mornings from 6 to 7 and again after school most of the time we start after school (3:00pm) and end from around 5-6 pm. Right before a competition we might step it up to 7pm and the day before we leave it is really late (like 11pm-1am)Since we (Color Guard members) are only in like one other event, we devote most of our time to Color Guard. We will be performing at the Nets game tomorrow, so that is pretty cool. Strangely enough we don't have Honor Guard. What is it?

TruBlu
12-16-2008, 10:04 PM
Our color guard (unarmed) practices in the mornings from 6 to 7 and again after school most of the time we start after school (3:00pm) and end from around 5-6 pm. Right before a competition we might step it up to 7pm and the day before we leave it is really late (like 11pm-1am)Since we (Color Guard members) are only in like one other event, we devote most of our time to Color Guard. We will be performing at the Nets game tomorrow, so that is pretty cool. Strangely enough we don't have Honor Guard. What is it?

Is this unarmed CG popular? I've never seen it, but have heard of it and did a little Google search just now and found a few links to some of them. I'm surprised this is as popular as it is. What is the reason for your unit doing this? Do you also have an armed CG?

And Honor Guard is basically flag ceremonies, like raising and lowering the flag for reveille and retreat, and other events. It can also be used interchangeably with the term "drill team." IE: Air Force Honor Guard is also an exhibition drill team for performances. Also, but not necessarily appropriate with JROTC, it is a funeral guard, producing pallbearers and guards for military funerals.

-BuLL-
12-16-2008, 10:41 PM
TruBlu, we may be talking about different things. I am talking about Saber Team(we just call it Honor Guard). We also have flag details that put up and take down the flags at school. Sorry for the confusion.

C/SSGT Seifer
01-26-2009, 09:05 PM
Is this unarmed CG popular? I've never seen it, but have heard of it and did a little Google search just now and found a few links to some of them. I'm surprised this is as popular as it is. What is the reason for your unit doing this? Do you also have an armed CG?

And Honor Guard is basically flag ceremonies, like raising and lowering the flag for reveille and retreat, and other events. It can also be used interchangeably with the term "drill team." IE: Air Force Honor Guard is also an exhibition drill team for performances. Also, but not necessarily appropriate with JROTC, it is a funeral guard, producing pallbearers and guards for military funerals.
I know this is a bit late, but I am just becoming active on the forum again since I am looking for links for a demil rifle. Unarmed CG isn't actually, "unarmed," it just consists of members from the unarmed drill team. Now that you explained the Honor Guard, I can say that we double as that too. We do funerals, we do ceremonies like MKJ Day, we did the mayor's inaugeration, and we also present the colors at sporting events (most recently we did the Nets game.) On top of that we also preform in competitions. We do have an Armed CG, and it is the exact same thing, they do the same kind of events, we just split the duties with them.

USFreak
03-24-2009, 09:54 PM
So the unarmed color guard doesn't have any rifles, but carries flags or what? We don't have unarmed color guard at any of the schools that I live around.

-BuLL-
03-25-2009, 01:02 AM
So the unarmed color guard doesn't have any rifles, but carries flags or what? We don't have unarmed color guard at any of the schools that I live around.

Did you read his post or just hit "Post Reply"? He said that the unarmed CG consisted of members from his unarmed drill team. They still used two flags and two rifles.