Harrisburg PA Sheriff violates citizens 2nd Amendment Rights!

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And she fights back!

Pistol-Packing Pennsylvania Soccer Mom Sues Sheriff (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,457367,00.html)

HARRISBURG, Pa. — A Pennsylvania woman Monday sued a county sheriff who revoked her concealed-weapons permit after she upset fellow parents by wearing her holstered pistol to her 5-year-old daughter's soccer game.

Meleanie Hain alleges in a suit filed in a Harrisburg federal court that Lebanon County Sheriff Michael DeLeo violated her Second Amendment rights and prosecuted her maliciously when he took away her permit in September.

Hain, 30, successfully appealed the revocation last month, although the judge who restored her permit questioned her judgment and said she "scared the devil" out of others who attended the Sept. 11 soccer game.

Hain said Monday her home-based baby-sitting service has suffered, her children have been harassed, and she has been ostracized by her neighbors because of DeLeo's actions. In one instance, she said, a neighbor who saw Hain in a local store had the manager ask her to leave because she was carrying her handgun.

"I fought for my right, and now I'm still being punished," she said.

DeLeo's office referred questions to the county's attorney, George Christianson, who did not immediately return a telephone call seeking comment.

DeLeo said at Hain's Oct. 14 appeal hearing he pulled her license after fielding the parents' complaints. He said he based his decision on a section of state law that prohibits concealed-weapons permits from being given to people whose character and reputation make them a danger to public safety.

Hain has said she previously carried her handgun openly to soccer games and practices and other public places without any problem. Her attorney, Matthew Weisberg, said DeLeo had no legal right to take away her permit.

"The sheriff just rides into town and without any hearing, explanation or anything, takes away her license and forces her into court," Weisberg said.

Would anyone care to attempt to answer exactly how carrying a weapon, in the open, in a holster constitutes a "danger to public safety" as the Sheriff claimed? For that matter, what about her "character and reputation" made her a "danger to public safety"? Better yet, would anyone care to show me where in the Second Amendment it says anything about "character and reputation"?

This Sheriff needs to be run out of town on a rail, and yesterday! :devil:

[Billyd]

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This Sheriff needs to be run out of town on a rail, and yesterday! :devil:

Paving material and plummage optional?

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:blueberet:

Paving material and plummage optional?

I don't want to take that much time. Now, if you can figure out a way to accomplish it "on the run", so much the better, otherwise, leaving him tied to the aforementioned rail when he's dumped outside the County will have to do.

[FeelinFroggy]

Would anyone care to attempt to answer exactly how carrying a weapon, in the open, in a holster constitutes a "danger to public safety" as the Sheriff claimed?
It doesn't. If that's the case, the sheriff should have his weapon taken from him as well as it's also a "danger to public safety". I think the key word here is, "holstered". Had the woman been carrying the weapon within reach of a child's grasp then I could see where public safety would be an issue.

[PaulR]

When I was stationed in Alaska, I carried a holstered pistol with me everywhere I went...

He is not even in office yet and it has already started.:mad:

[HairyEyeball]

The crux of the matter:

...the judge who restored her permit questioned her judgment and said she "scared the devil" out of others...

This is a crock of nightsoil. People fear what they don't understand, especially when the 'education' establishment and lamestream, drive-by media have succeeded in demonizing an inert piece of steel, and the brainwashed avoids contact with (and any actual knowledge of) the tools of self-defense.

On the way to the county limits, perhaps someone might explain to the Sheriff ('captive audience', anyone?) that statistically and demonstrably, those horrified soccer moms are measurably more deadly - tooling down the road in their two-ton SUVs texting on cell phones, one eye on the GPS and one on the ankle-biters in the back seat (while sneaking a peek at the DVD 'entertaining' them) than the Meleanie Hains. Perhaps someone might also explain to the willing 'victims' of gun-grabber propaganda that those citizens who have successfully completed the process of begging the government for 'permission' to exercise a natural right and paid the bribe demanded for issuance of the 'permission slip' are among the safest, most law-abiding in the nation - they have to be: Once they're on the computer as 'licensed' to carry, they are monitored daily.

Just as a random, semi-related thought: Imagine the non-event if, say, a million or so current CCW holders - suitably attired, of course - showed up at an inaugural event...until it was 'leaked' to the New York Fishwrap - er, 'Times' - and See-B.S.

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Just as a random, semi-related thought: Imagine the non-event if, say, a million or so current CCW holders - suitably attired, of course - showed up at an inaugural event...until it was 'leaked' to the New York Fishwrap - er, 'Times' - and See-B.S.


Well, one thing is for certain, if anyone did attempt anything "untoward" during the aforementioned event, they would immediately be subdued, and rendered 'impotent', but of course the lamestream media would out of rote report it as an "overreaction". :sleepy:

[Woody]

Surely concealed carry means other people cant see your weapon? If you carrying it and other people see it and then complain .
Its your fault glad she got her permit back hope she has been given tips on concelment .

Anyway tradtional weapon for football holigans is a stanely knife guns just spoil the fun:devil:
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[wukong]

Much more tragic than the impingement of Second Amendment rights, I have been informed by my very liberal (and gun toting daughter and son-in-law lawyers) that the husband has sued for loss of consortium. There may be more here than meets the eye. This may be the basis for a new Viagra commercial, but otherwise tragic.

[Sarah81]

Timwoodhead: Meleanie Hain was open carrying at the time. She did not do anything wrong, and most assuredly did not deserve to have her concealed-carry permit revoked.

Here's an old news article (http://www.eveningsun.com/ci_10578895) that was published shortly after Mrs. Hain's permit was revoked. This story tends to explain what in the world happened, and exactly why Sheriff DumbLeo needs to lose this lawsuit in a bad way.

[HairyEyeball]

Coming soon to a neighborhood near you.

An individual persecuted by the 'law' and the community for daring to exercise a basic civil right? Face it - firearms owners are the new n*gg*rs, and there ain't no federal legislation coming to protect our rights - if anything, it will further curtail them. Expect a lot more of this harassment as the fear mongers and gun grabbers have been emboldened by the result of the recent election.

Stock up on firearms and ammo, and find a good pro-rights lawyer - or three.

[Sarah81]

Hairy: Sadly, you're right. Firearms owners are under attack, and Obama is leading the charge. There's a reason for The Brady Campaign's post-election celebration, after all. (Sigh.)

Falling metal prices have made ammo cheaper, at least where I live. Now is not what I would call a bad time to stock up. If you ("you in general," that is) reload, get the materials. If Obama & Friends make good on their idea to shoot up ammo taxes, they aren't likely to forget about reloading materials. They're thorough scumbags, that lot.

[HairyEyeball]

There is another consideration (two, actually, but we'd prefer to stop short of armed insurrection): Just as your oath of enlistment does not obligate you to obey a clearly illegal order, as a citizen you have no obligation to obey an illegal law (although you may be more likely to suffer the consequences).

The key here is that your elected representatives - your hired help - owe their positions to those who elected them, and their allegiance to the Constitution - any (further) effort on their part to undermine or overthrow it is grounds for recall or impeachment, the 'gravity' of the charge ranging from criminal malfeasance to treason.

The fact that sales of handguns, AR-15-style and soviet-style rifles and ammunition (and components) have skyrocketed has a number of implications. Obviously, there is the 'get them while you can' effect, but those in the incoming administration can't fail to take note of the fact that 'we the People' are better armed, and in greater numbers, than at any time in recent history. Yes, many of them are 'golfers with guns', many will display the false 'from my cold dead hands' bravado until the first gummint operative knocks on the door and says 'hand them over', but these are shaping up to be 'interesting times'.

I wonder if the NRA is tooling up a new issue of "My President is Charlton Heston" bumper stickers?

[Sarah81]

Right - I prefer fighting to keep my rights than scrambling for cover after they've evaporated. As long as I have the right to vote, and the right to peaceably petition the government, I'm basically good to go.

I don't think that nationwide door-to-door confiscation would work, though. There are too many homes, period (firearms included or not) and not enough manpower. (Also: some of us do not have to register our firearms, and we can legally go "off paper" for private sales and purchases.) Now...if Obama makes good on that national defense force idea, a.k.a. his brown shirts? This could change.

I'm convinced that Obama will begin with anti-gun legislation, as that's a sneakier, more cowardly way to make things happen - perfectly in tune with his "sparkling" personality, in other words.

But the fact is that I don't know, for sure, what's coming. That's why it's important, if you ask me, to watch not only legislation, but also who's knocking on the door.