Nrotc

[mrkltmn]

Good Evening,

Are there any other NROTC Midshipman in this forum? Or are there any JROTC kids wanting to join NROTC with questions? I'd be happy to answer any questions you might have about life in my battalion, navy knowledge, scholarship questions, or anything else.

[Armed Drill Addict]

I have one. I plan on going into NROTC under the Marine Option, and i'm going to basic this summer. How does NROTC work if you are enlisted already?

[mrkltmn]

I have one. I plan on going into NROTC under the Marine Option, and i'm going to basic this summer. How does NROTC work if you are enlisted already?

I know of a couple guys in my battalion that are already enlisted. Both of them are in the reserves and go to school at the same time, but are paying for school themselves. The only other guy I know of that did that went to Basic and then found out he got the scholarship, and the Marine Corps discharged him so he could be a midshipman. The other option I know of for marines is the MECEP (Not sure if that's the spelling) and we have two or three of them but they are all Staff Sergeants. Did that answer your question?

[C./Fields]

How would it work if you wanted to become a Navy SEAL?

[PhoenixCadet]

How would it work if you wanted to become a Navy SEAL?

You might want to check out the Navy recruiting website (Navy.com). According to their information, the process to become a SEAL doesn't start until after you commission (like with any other job, and / or commissioning source). FeelinFroggy is our resident SEAL. He should be able to help you out here. In the mean time, check this out:

http://www.navy.com/careers/officer/specialops/

To become a Special Warfare (SEAL) Officer, a candidate must meet the physical prerequisites, volunteer for hazardous duty, and report to Basic Underwater Demolition/SEAL (BUD/S) training after gaining a commission as a Navy Officer. BUD/S Training is a seven-month course that is specifically designed to provide the necessary basic physical, mental, and technical skills needed by a Special Warfare operator and its requirements are demanding enough that only those who are highly motivated will complete the course.

-PC

[navytrooper]

If you are in NROTC, can the Navy pull you out of college to be deployed or whatever? I don't think that could happen, but apparently one of my mom's coworkers was in an ROTC program (I think) but he got pulled out of college and is now in Iraq.

(He is a Specialist with the 315th PSYOP Co.)

[PhoenixCadet]

If you are in NROTC, can the Navy pull you out of college to be deployed or whatever? I don't think that could happen, but apparently one of my mom's coworkers was in an ROTC program (I think) but he got pulled out of college and is now in Iraq.

(He is a Specialist with the 315th PSYOP Co.)

This should answer your question:

http://www.rotc.usaac.army.mil/command/ng/ng_docs/Mob%20USACC%20memo.pdf

He wasn't a contracted / scholarship Cadet. He was simply a reservist / Guardsman who joined ROTC while going to college. In that case (without a contract / scholarship), your duty as a reservist or Guardsman takes presidence and you can be deployed.

-PC

[C./Fields]

Don't you have the option to train with the SEALs during your first class summer like at USNA or is it different in NROTC? (thanks for the website by the way)

[quicksilver]

I'm a sophmore in high school and am trying my absolute best to work toward a NROTC scholarship. I would greatly appreciate any and all information you could provide. Thank you in advance, sir. :-)

[PhoenixCadet]

I'm a sophmore in high school and am trying my absolute best to work toward a NROTC scholarship. I would greatly appreciate any and all information you could provide. Thank you in advance, sir. :-)

I'd first advise you to start researching things on your own (i.e. Google), and check out the NROTC website. That contains the majority of the information you will need. If you have any specific questions you can't find the answer to, however, feel free to post questions here. With the wording of your question, the best thing I'd be able to do is copy and paste all the info from the NROTC website - but that would be a waste of my time and the site's bandwith.

-PC

[Drill for life]

QUOTE=C./Fields;9312]Don't you have the option to train with the Seals during your first class summer like at USNA or is it different in NROTC? (thanks for the website by the way)[/QUOTE]

That is a totally different program, that’s like when Cadets at west point go to Airborne and Air assault there first two summers. You don't go to BUD/S school you go and see what it's like and then decide if you want to do it. Here's a great website to(It's straight from Navy Times)
http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/careers/military_careers/ONLINE.nt.COMMISSION/
Remember C./Fields, you don't control your future God does.
I was thinking about doing the MECEP program but it is very hard and the time it takes you could already be on the E-7 promotion list and be eligible to retire in a Couple of years.(It is also open to E-5's who are close to E-6 promotion and it's very hard to get if you haven't volunteered for a B-Billet(Drill Instructor, Recruiter or Marine Security Guard). Hope this helps.

[fjer]

That is a totally different program, that’s like when Cadets at west point go to Airborne and Air assault there first two summers. You don't go to BUD/S school you go and see what it's like and then decide if you want to do it.

Eh, not sure quite what you're getting at there, but I'm pretty sure he was talking about training with SEALs not doing BUD/S. I don't know much about USNA (and can't find much about there summer opportunities online), but it is certainly possible that they offer that opportunity to middies wanting to be SEAL officers, and NROTC may offer the same.

Also, no USMA cadets go to Airborne and Air Assault during their first summer; last year was the first year cadets could go during their 2nd summer (I hope that stays for us; I'm hoping for Airborne this summer), and those schools (and many, many more) are also available during the other summers. Oh, and it's not just USMA cadets that can go to those schools cadets from the other academies and ROTC do as well.

[Drill for life]

Thank you for the info, I took it that he was talking about going to BUD/S and then going back to college. It is really hard for a US Marine to go to Army Airborne school(You have to wait for a slot to open). It migh ttake your whole four years for a slot to open up for you and then you have to go to OCS and The Basic School, It's really complicated. That is why a whole lot of Force Recon Marines are going into the fleet instead of sitting around waiting for a slot to open.

[FeelinFroggy]

How would it work if you wanted to become a Navy SEAL? Talk to a recruiter. That's what they are there for. If you wish to become an officer then by all means pursue your dreams. You'll still suffer the same as the enlisted.

[C./Fields]

Talk to a recruiter. That's what they are there for. If you wish to become an officer then by all means pursue your dreams. You'll still suffer the same as the enlisted.

I know for sure that I would want to become an officer, no matter what branch I join, and that they treat officers the same way...in BUD/s all they call you by is a number & color and the instructors treat you the same way as enlisted, just like in SF training, correct?

For the recruiter thing, with past experiences at school when recruiters came to visit that they seemed to know mostly about becoming enlisted, and barely anything about becoming/being/etc. an officer (especially service academies).

[quicksilver]

Thank you for your reply. I am wondering, are you automatically disqualified from recieving a scholoarship if your vision is not correctable to 20/20? Is that a definite requirement for NROTC? Thank you again in advance.

[wukong]

For the recruiter thing, with past experiences at school when recruiters came to visit that they seemed to know mostly about becoming enlisted, and barely anything about becoming/being/etc. an officer (especially service academies).

Your best bet on information concerning the academies is to contact the office of your congressional rep and ask for the phone number of the local academy liaison. (THIS IS A MUST DO, if you are a high school senior you are already behind the curve) The academy liaisons are extremely helpful in getting you started in the pipeline. If you intend to go the ROTCy route, contact the ROTC department at the school you plan to attend. The Services do send recruiting officers to colleges and universities, but they are looking for graduates and not entering freshmen.

[C/ B3RRY NJROTC]

I'm a junior in high school and i'm in NJROTC as an NS1. I'm joining NROTC in college, at jacksonville university, under the nursing option. I was just wondering if you had any information on OCS.

Any information that you have would be appreciated, thank you, sir.

[Psybadek]

If your going into NROTC, then you don't go through OCS, you earn your commision from NROTC instead of OCS. OCS is used for enlisted personell who earn their degree and are accepted into it, or civilians who have degree's and are accepted into OCS.

[C/ B3RRY NJROTC]

Thank you! Everyone that i've talked to said that after college i would have to go to OCS, thanks for clearing that up for me!

[Psybadek]

If you don't do NROTC you would, but the 4 years of NROTC will give you your commission instead of OCS.

It's not a problem!

[C/ B3RRY NJROTC]

Ok thanks for the information! :)

[PhoenixCadet]

Thank you! Everyone that i've talked to said that after college i would have to go to OCS, thanks for clearing that up for me!

While you have an interest in going Navy and not Marines:

Some could have possibly been referring to the way the Marines do things. If you're looking to go into the Marines as an officer, and you go the NROTC route, you will still participate in "Bulldog", which takes place in the summer between your junior and senior years of college, and is a form of OCS.

[navytrooper]

I've been wanting to work in the Intel field for a while as a Naval Officer. Is it possible to be a Restricted Line Officer through NROTC? A lot of sources say you're stuck with being an Unrestricted Line, but http://www.auburn.edu/academic/rotc/nrotc/forms/2009_Updates/CHAPTER_9.pdf
says:
"Midshipmen and Officer Candidates who are Not Physically Qualified (NPQ) for the Unrestricted Line but are qualified for commissioning, may have options in the Restricted Line/Staff Corps communities. These options include Aviation Maintenance Duty Officer, Cryptology, Naval Intelligence, Oceanography, Fleet Support Engineering Duty, Supply Corps, and Civil Engineering Corps."

If the NPQ Midshipmen MAY be able to be a Restricted Line Officer, how bout the "normal" physically qualified ones?

Also http://usmilitary.about.com/od/officerjo2/a/menu.htm says that you can become a Restricted Line Officer through NROTC.

So can you?