Military Entrance

[Buffa1oso1di3r]

Well, my dad told me last night that he was going to deny military entrance for me... since I'm the only male in my family with the last name...

Man, this is complete and utter bovine excrement... :angry:

How else am I going to repay this country? Becoming a rowdy college student going to parties all the time?

[ang1sgt]

You need to discuss this with your Father. It needs to be an open and HONEST discussion, Man to Man. He needs to understand that after you turn 18, YOU are free to make this decision for yourself, and you do not need to ask his permission. Being the last of the line makes a difference to HIM, not to the military. You also need to LISTEN to him and have him voice his concerns to you. There may be things that he is not telling you, and those things you need to know and understand.

Good Luck with your Talk.

[soccermark23]

Well, my dad told me last night that he was going to deny military entrance for me... since I'm the only male in my family with the last name...

Man, this is complete and utter bovine excrement... :angry:

How else am I going to repay this country? Becoming a rowdy college student going to parties all the time?

Don't knock it til you try it.

Seriously though, Top's right, you really need to sit down and discuss it with him and figure out was his issues are. You have to remember that ultimately the decision is yours and yours alone to make when the time comes.

[PhilK]

Well, my dad told me last night that he was going to deny military entrance for me... since I'm the only male in my family with the last name...



Like the advice given, talk to him and explain why you want to do what it is that you want to do.

I too am the "carrier of the name". I became an only son when my older brother was killed when we were young, and I still joined when I was 17.

Today, I am married, and have two great daughters...and it still looks like the line will end with me even though I have had a career in the Army.

[CAPSmith]

Well, my dad told me last night that he was going to deny military entrance for me... since I'm the only male in my family with the last name...

Man, this is complete and utter bovine excrement... :angry:

How else am I going to repay this country? Becoming a rowdy college student going to parties all the time?

Besides the obvious - it's your choice, you need to have a discussion with your father. I can understand his angst about the possibility of your family name ending with you, but at the same time what kind of legacy does your father want to have for his family?

A family name that is known for its service and desire to better this country, as well as making the most of their lives will be remembered. The families that are remembered in history are those who gave back and gave something in return without expectation of reward.

Limiting the dreams and aspirations of one of your family members is not a way to build a family legacy, which appears to be important to your father.

A good heart to heart talk with rational logic behind your thoughts should prove to him that you are well on your way to becoming the man he wants you to be. At this point, it isn't about your personal aspriations because you can make up your mind regardless, but maintaining order and dignity in your house.

Good luck.

[ang1sgt]

What all of these gentlemen have said is so true. This is the time for YOU ass a young man to step up and show your Father the maturity and conviction you have. Presented correctly, and with your heart and soul into it, I doubt that your father could complain. This may also be that time in your life where your Father, while deserving of respect needs to understand that you are coming of age and need to make your own decisions.

Really...I wish you luck!

[TruBlu]

Well, my dad told me last night that he was going to deny military entrance for me... since I'm the only male in my family with the last name...

Man, this is complete and utter bovine excrement... :angry:

How else am I going to repay this country? Becoming a rowdy college student going to parties all the time?

I'm not going to try and give advice, everyone that posted before me said it better than I ever could. What I can offer is support for you and just say, good luck man and I really hope that he listens to your side and you his. I hope that you guys can sort this out and come to terms with whatever it is that is going to happen. Good luck my friend.

[Buffa1oso1di3r]

Well, that's not the whole story...

See, it's not really because I'm the last one with the family name... although that's the reason he's going to use.

He doesn't want me to enlist. He wants me to go to college... and my grades are too horrible to go to college...

And for some odd reason, he doesn't want me to "end up like him". Whatever that's supposed to mean...

[TruBlu]

Well, that's not the whole story...

See, it's not really because I'm the last one with the family name... although that's the reason he's going to use.

He doesn't want me to enlist. He wants me to go to college... and my grades are too horrible to go to college...

And for some odd reason, he doesn't want me to "end up like him". Whatever that's supposed to mean...

Thought you said you had like a 4.0. That would be a very good GPA to go to college on. But if you don't want to go to college and want to enlist, that's your choice. But now knowing that your father was an enlisted man, maybe he had some bad experiences that he doesn't want you to endure (I'm just looking at all possibles from all angles). Try to figure out why he really doesn't want you to join up, and explain to him why you really do want to. Good luck again mate.

[soccermark23]

Well, that's not the whole story...

See, it's not really because I'm the last one with the family name... although that's the reason he's going to use.

He doesn't want me to enlist. He wants me to go to college... and my grades are too horrible to go to college...

And for some odd reason, he doesn't want me to "end up like him". Whatever that's supposed to mean...

Well you could do what I did. Enlist in the National Guard and go to college at the same time. This would let you go to college and be in the military, while the government pays for a good chunk of your schooling.

[Drill for life]

I had that exact same problem. I decide instead of yelling I would listen. We went to a Family reunion and every male in my family has had a serious problem. Every male in my family is a drunk, drug-addict, abusive, violent. Why should I be punished by my family. I then told him My brother can be the male who continues our family. I am more of a of a man than my father is. I don't beat women and act like a Douche. Buffa1oso1di3r your dad is only watching out for you. In his eyes joining the military is certain death. He needs to talk to real military personal in the MOS you choose. It needs to be real personal, It is the most important decision you will ever make. It was the hardest decision I ever made(it also is the best thing I have ever done, 0311 in the Marine Corps).I have been locked-up two times and I know if I stay in my neighborhood only worse things will happen. My little brother is the only guy in our whole neighborhood who has not been arrested. Talk to your dad, he loves you and will listen. Just talk and be real convincing(imagine your convincing a girl):D.

Good Luck
Drill for life

[Buffa1oso1di3r]

My dad's the senior enlistedman in charge of all training for the 1st Infantry Division...
I think it's going to be harder to convince him than anything else.

I'll talk to him over the phone when I get the chance.

[Drill for life]

I didn't know that. My friend is going to 2nd infantry division.

[navytrooper]

Buffalo, while I haven't BTDT, I suggest you become an officer through something like ROTC (the senior one). You can get a Master's or Ph.D or whatever you strive for in college, but you will be attending regular drills and when you graduate you will become an officer with higher entry-level pay and a leadership position.

Now, you say that your dad is in charge of training an Infantry division. Perhaps he was once infantry? It would make sense if he says that he doesn't want you to be like him. Again, I haven't BTDT, but even a lowly civilian (ha ha) like me would know that if you are a deployed infantryman, comfort will probably be the farthest thing from you. Your dad wants a bright future for you and probably he didn't/doesn't have one in the military, so he's trying to discourage you from joining. Just my humble opinion, added to the wise advice above me.

Cadet NavyTrooper :navy2:

[Buffa1oso1di3r]

True.

I talked to him last night.

His response:

"Do what you want to, but keep your grades up so you still have that option."

[C/ZOOMIE]

Just FYI: Just because your Dad won't let you join at age 17 doesn't mean you can't join at age 18. Yeah it'll almost ****ing KILL you to wait a year but you'll get through it! :) Now ME personnely, my 17th B-Day present is my parents siging my life away to the United States Air Force but just remember, EVERY FAMILY is different. Good Luck, hope you get what you want! :)

[TruBlu]

True.

I talked to him last night.

His response:

"Do what you want to, but keep your grades up so you still have that option."

Good deal. I agree with him. Do what you want, but you should keep your grades up. Who knows, in the next year or so, you may just change your mind as to exactly what you want to do and you should have as many opportunities available as you can. Also there's that old saying that goes something like "Do everything you do to your fullest."

[El Supremo]

Don't knock it til you try it.

Not always a true philosophy, my dad actually always says this when I say something similiar to that: 'I dont have to catch the "clap" to know that its not good. lol.'