Trivia Time!

[Billyd]

First the ROE:

1. One try per day. This is so everyone has an opportunity to participate.
2. The only reward is bragging rights.
3. Some questions may have multiple parts. Be aware as ALL parts of multi-part questions must be fulfilled.
4. Questions are based upon general military knowledge, but will require some research.
5. Clues may or may not be given at the sole discretion of the Moderator.

Remember, this in only for fun and bragging rights. Are you ready? Here we go.

The first question this time around came to mind reading PhilK's post Service Birthdays (http://www.gruntsmilitary.com/board/showthread.php?t=577)

It is pretty easy to figure out which U.S President signed the legislation establishing the United States Air Force as a separate and equal service. Who can tell me the Title of that legislation and what Cabinet position was created at the same time?

[Buffa1oso1di3r]

The National Defense Service Act of 1947

Cabinet Position: Secretary of Defense

[Billyd]

Ok, that didn't take very long. Follow-up question:

What Cabinet level post was eliminated that day?

[Buffa1oso1di3r]

Oooh...

The Secretary of the War Department?

[TruBlu]

The National Security Act of 1947 creating the Department of Defense (thus the Secretary of Defense) and the US Air Force.

Edit:
Little late their for me, you two posted as I was posting mine...

[Billyd]

Ok, Buffa1oso1di3r got the first two. Guess I need to make them a bit harder. :devil:

EDIT: TruBlu, just need to be a bit faster. Have no fear, there will be more.

[TruBlu]

Ok, Buffa1oso1di3r got the first two. Guess I need to make them a bit harder. :devil:

EDIT: TruBlu, just need to be a bit faster. Have no fear, there will be more.

Lol, its all good. I really like this idea Billyd, thanks for starting this up. I've already learned a couple of things from it!

[Buffa1oso1di3r]

TruBlu, let the battle begin! :devil:

[soccermark23]

Here's one kids.

The ranks for Generals go as follows:

Brigadier General
Major General
Lieutenant General
General

The questions is, why does a Lieutenant General outrank a Major General, when a Major outranks a Lieutenant?

[TruBlu]

Here's one kids.

The ranks for Generals go as follows:

Brigadier General
Major General
Lieutenant General
General

The questions is, why does a Lieutenant General outrank a Major General, when a Major outranks a Lieutenant?

I'll take a shot with a literal definition: As defined by Webster: A lieutenant is "a person who acts for a superior, as during the latter's absence; aide; deputy."

So basically a Lieutenant standing alone is acting for a superior in that he is the lowest officer in the CoC and is dealing out the orders handed from above. In terms of Lieutenant General, he/she would step up to act for a superior by acting as the superior in his/her absence.

[Buffa1oso1di3r]

Major General comes from Sergeant Major General, which was outranked by a Lieutenant General.

[soccermark23]

Major General comes from Sergeant Major General, which was outranked by a Lieutenant General.

Ding ding, we have a winner.

[Buffa1oso1di3r]

Thank God for Wikipedia. ;)

I find it interesting how Sergeant Major used to be a General rank way back in the day.

[TruBlu]

Ding ding, we have a winner.

Let me guess, I wasn't even close?

[armysc_25b]

What is the oldest part of our Army? Describe the elements that formed it.

[Buffa1oso1di3r]

The National Guard, formed from the state militias... I think...


Also, they got the term National Guard from the French... who called the State Militia of New York that... I think.

Componets: National Guard of a State - militia force organized by each of the 50 U.S. states and U.S. territories
National Guard of the United States - a federally recognized reserve military force of the U.S.

[soccermark23]

Let me guess, I wasn't even close?

Way off, better luck next time.

[TruBlu]

What is the oldest part of our Army? Describe the elements that formed it.

Infantry, the only branch created on the same day of conception on June 14, 1775.

"Ten companies of riflemen were authorized by a resolution of the Continental Congress on June 14, 1775. However, the oldest Regular Army infantry regiment, the 3d, was constituted on June 3, 1784, as the First American Regiment." http://www.history.army.mil/faq/branches.htm

[armysc_25b]

The National Guard, formed from the state militias... I think...


Also, they got the term National Guard from the French... who called the State Militia of New York that... I think
Close, but not quite the detail I was looking for...

*HINT* Use the info already posted to this thread

[Buffa1oso1di3r]

The National Guard, as it was formed in 1636, while the US Army (The next oldest) was formed in 1775.

EDIT: I think I used up all my tries for five days...

[armysc_25b]

The National Guard, as it was formed in 1636, while the US Army (The next oldest) was formed in 1775.

EDIT: I think I used up all my tries for five days...
You've got the base down. There's one detail I'm looking for that hasn't been posted yet.

[Buffa1oso1di3r]

Componets: National Guard of a State - militia force organized by each of the 50 U.S. states and U.S. territories
National Guard of the United States - a federally recognized reserve military force of the U.S.
My edit...

[flyBoy2010]

The National Guard's first unit was in Salem, Massachusetts.

[armysc_25b]

The National Guard's first unit was in Salem, Massachusetts.
And with that, we now have the complete answer!

[FeelinFroggy]

I'll post an easy one...

Name the modern military vehicle that was first manufactured to circumvent trench warfare.

[flyBoy2010]

That's easy. The tank.

[Billyd]

Wow,

This thread seems to have taken off. Thank you to all the adults who have already contributed, and to those cadets that have answered. Stand by as more trivia is coming your way. If we're lucky, maybe one of the old timers (Top, HE, Wukong) might stop by and really test our knowledge, as you know, they not only know quite a bit of history, but I would bet that one or two of them were involved in or knew the primary players in some of those historic events :devil: I kid gents.

Until that time, let's see if I can come up with a real brain buster for you.

[TruBlu]

Wow,

This thread seems to have taken off. Thank you to all the adults who have already contributed, and to those cadets that have answered. Stand by as more trivia is coming your way. If we're lucky, maybe one of the old timers (Top, HE, Wukong) might stop by and really test our knowledge, as you know, they not only know quite a bit of history, but I would bet that one or two of them were involved in or knew the primary players in some of those historic events :devil: I kid gents.

Until that time, let's see if I can come up with a real brain buster for you.

It has taken off really, and I know I've learned quite a bit from it. Maybe a sticky for this one?

[PhilK]

In the Marine Hymn, the first line is: "From the Halls of Montezuma..."

What battle does this line make reference to?

What war does this battle take place during? (Include date)

[C/ZOOMIE]

In the Marine Hymn, the first line is: "From the Halls of Montezuma..."

What battle does this line make reference to?

What war does this battle take place during? (Include date)

Uhmmm, somthing to do with the Barbrary Wars? :D

[PhilK]

Uhmmm, somthing to do with the Barbrary Wars? :D

BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ Wrong...next.

[El Supremo]

BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ Wrong...next.

is it referring to Chapultepec Castle

[PhilK]

is it referring to Chapultepec Castle

You have the location. What about the rest?

[El Supremo]

You have the location. What about the rest?

reffering to the battle, which the marines lead, at chapultepec castle, in the Mexican American war, September 1847.

In which the Marines defeated a Mexican force with very little casualties. Highlights of the battle include a Mexican force that used cadets to defend the bastion on top of the hill, but other than that im not sure what the significance is between the first line "From the halls of Montezuma..." and the second "...To the shores of Tripoli" other than distance.

[C/ZOOMIE]

reffering to the battle, which the marines lead, at chaupalutec castle, in the Mexican American war, September 1847.

In which the Marines defeated a Mexican force with very little casualties. Highlights of the battle include a Mexican force that used cadets to defend the bastion on top of the hill, but other than that im not sure what the significance is between the first line "From the halls of Montezuma..." and the second "...To the shores of Tripoli" other than distance.

That was my second guess. I'm SUPER SERIOUS. http://www.starpulse.com/news/media/1112ImaginationlandPartIII-2.jpg

[PhilK]

reffering to the battle, which the marines lead, at chaupalutec castle, in the Mexican American war, September 1847.

In which the Marines defeated a Mexican force with very little casualties. Highlights of the battle include a Mexican force that used cadets to defend the bastion on top of the hill, but other than that im not sure what the significance is between the first line "From the halls of Montezuma..." and the second "...To the shores of Tripoli" other than distance.

You might want to double check your history and see how many Marines were actually involved in the Battle of Chapultepec. You are correct that the line does refer to that battle and the war was the US-Mexico War (or Mexican American War).

As far as the "shores of Tripoli", the answer to that was actually given earlier.

[Buffa1oso1di3r]

The Barbary Wars are what the "shores of Tripoli" line is about.

Some raiders kept on raiding our ships, and were trying to force us to pay tribute. And so, we sent in a... Company [?] of Marines.

There was something on the History Channel about it a while ago.

[Drill for life]

Mods can I ask a trivia question. Don't worry it's real easy.

[El Supremo]

The Barbary Wars are what the "shores of Tripoli" line is about.

Some raiders kept on raiding our ships, and were trying to force us to pay tribute. And so, we sent in a... Company [?] of Marines.

There was something on the History Channel about it a while ago.

I know what the Barbary wars were, but i was under the impression that the Marines were'nt a recognized force at that time period, that it was solely the navy that fought in the Barbary Wars, off of Morocco and Algeria.

[flyBoy2010]

The Marines were formed as the Continental Marines in 1775, 26 years before the Barbary Wars. In 1798 the Marine Corps as we know it today was formed.

In the first Barbary War, eight Marines led 300+ mercenaries.

[Jr.NekR]

Content deleted for failure to adhere to standards of spelling and grammar

[Buffa1oso1di3r]

Six.

A balloon bomb.

[Billyd]

Here we go. This is a toughy.

In 1947 when the Air Force became a separate service, two Army Master Sergeants decided to trade their Army green for Air Force blue. In the process, they became the only two enlisted pilots in the new service. Your task, should choose to accept it is to name ONE of them.

Good Luck.

[flyBoy2010]

Tom Rafferty and George Holmes

[Billyd]

Well done. I didn't expect a response so soon. Now for the bonus on this one. Of the two gentlemen you named, one was killed in a crash of a C-47 in 1949 near Donner Pass. The other retired in 1957. Which one is which.

[flyBoy2010]

Tom Rafferty retired in 1957 and George Holmes died in the crash.

[Drill for life]

I got a question. How did the Marine Corps get it's current insignia(the Eagle,Globe and Anchor)? What country used a form of it first?

[Buffa1oso1di3r]

Dude... the Royal Marine's cap insignia. And what country has the Royal Marines? The Brits.

[Billyd]

As any Air Force cadet worth his/her salt knows, the Air Force was at one time the Army Air Corps and a part of the United States Army. But, the Air Force's roots don't start there. Prior to becoming the Army Air Corps, under which branch of the United States Army did today's Air Force get its start?

[flyBoy2010]

It started as the Aeronautical Division, U.S. Signal Corps.

[Buffa1oso1di3r]

Oh my God Flyboy, give someone else a chance, seesh. :p

[Billyd]

I think you all are trying to make me look bad by answering these questions to quickly :D. I guess I will have to find some harder stuff. Here's one.

Who was the first enlisted aviator? And, in what year did he earn his wings?

[flyBoy2010]

The internet makes this so easy.
After the Aeronautical Division, U.S. Signal Corps, it became the Aviation Section, U.S. Signal Corps.
Then, United States Army Air Service; U.S. Army Air Corps; United States Army Air Forces; and finally: The United States Air Force

[Drill for life]

Okay here you guys go. How many times has the Marine Corps changed it's ranks since 1912?

[flyBoy2010]

Vernon L. Burge was the first enlisted aviator.

This page has all you need to know about enlisted pilots:
http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=1427

[Billyd]

The internet makes this so easy.

Yes it does. I however, am not using the internet to find my questions, that is one reason it takes me some time to come up with them.

[Buffa1oso1di3r]

Vernon Burge...

EDIT:

...

Flyboy got it.

BillyD, I think you need to pull a change up, no more enlisted aviators.

[Billyd]

Vernon L. Burge was the first enlisted aviator.

This page has all you need to know about enlisted pilots:
http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=1427

Partial credit only. There is another part. Also, this being a military related forum, it would be appropriate to indicate what rank Burge was when he earned his wings.

[flyBoy2010]

He was a Corporal.

[Buffa1oso1di3r]

He was a Corporal.

[soccermark23]

Who was the first Chief Master Sergeant of the Air Force? And who was the first African American to hold the position?

[Billyd]

Still only a partial. Go back and re-read the question. While you are doing that, name the pilot who trained him.

[Buffa1oso1di3r]

Paul W. Airey was the first.

Thomas Barnes was the first African American.

BillyD:

Sergeant, and Lieutenant Frank Lahm trained him.

(I think.)

[Jr.NekR]

What did the CAP circle and triangle logo originate from?

[flyBoy2010]

Who was the first Chief Master Sergeant of the Air Force? And who was the first African American to hold the position?

Chief Master Sergeant Paul Wesley Airey was the first Chief.

Chief Master Sergeant Fred Archer was the first African American Chief.

[Billyd]

Paul W. Airey was the first.

Thomas Barnes was the first African American.

BillyD:

Sergeant, and Lieutenant Frank Lahm trained him.

(I think.)

Good call on the trainer, however, Flyboy got the correct rank. There is still the question of what year did Cpl Burge earn his wings.

[flyBoy2010]

He earned his wings in 1912. After he earned his wings he was promoted to Sergeant.

[Buffa1oso1di3r]

He earned his wings in 1912, and was certified by the Federation Aeronautique International.

[Jr.NekR]

Again, what did the CAP circle and triangle logo originate from?

[soccermark23]

Paul W. Airey was the first.

Thomas Barnes was the first African American.

BillyD:

Sergeant, and Lieutenant Frank Lahm trained him.

(I think.)

Nice job Buffalo.

[flyBoy2010]

The CAP logo is the basic Civil Defense logo with the red propeller signifying the Civil Air Patrol section.

http://www.caphistory.org/images/Civilian-Defense-Poster.jpg

[Buffa1oso1di3r]

Nice job Buffalo.

Thank you, Sergeant.

[Jr.NekR]

What was the largest construction project of WWII?

[Billyd]

Looks like Flyboy is on fire tonight. At least when it comes to enlisted aviators.

If you are curious about the enlisted aviators, check out Lee Arbon's book They Also Flew: The Enlisted Pilot Legacy 1912-1942

[flyBoy2010]

The largest construction project of WW2 was the Manhattan Project.

[Jr.NekR]

Unnecessary post

[flyBoy2010]

Check again.

The largest single construction project of the war was the Manhattan project, the federal government's $2 bilion effort to create the atomic bomb. Led by the Army Corps of Engineers, the project involved building three top-secret cities. At one--Oak Ridge, Tennessee--the government spent $1 billion to house 47,000 workers and their families. Oak Ridge was developed to produce only a few pounds of uranium 235, an essential ingredient in the bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

http://www.h-net.org/~local/exhibitions/dream.html

[Billyd]

Adjustment to the rules of engagement for this thread. There is no need to post for incorrect answers. When the correct answer is given, it will be acknowledged.

[Buffa1oso1di3r]

NekR, I think Flyboy is right on this one...

Unless you're talking about the Concentration and Prison Camps in Nazi Germany...

[Jr.NekR]

Since none of you are going to get it, the largest construction project of WWII was the Alaskan Highway. The road was 1,680 miles through the middle of Alaska from Dawson Creek to Delta Junction. Started March 8, 1942 and finished September 24, 1942.

[flyBoy2010]

I don't see how that's bigger than the Manhattan Project. If you are going by how long it took then the Manhattan Project ran from 1941-1946. How did you determine that this was the biggest?

Edit:
Can you provide a reliable source?

[armysc_25b]

Army Trivia concerning the TRUE parent of the US Air Force, the SIGNAL CORPS. I know, several questions, but it gives everyone some time to think and opportunity to research.

- Who was the first Signal Officer, and when was he appointed such?
- When was the Signal Corps officially created/authorized?
- When was the Signal Corps first communications satelite launched, what was the name of the project, and with whom did the Signal Corps work with to get this project rolling?
- When was Camp Gordon established as a military installation?

[flyBoy2010]

- Who was the first Signal Officer, and when was he appointed such?

Albert James Myer in 1860

- When was the Signal Corps officially created/authorized?

March 3, 1863

- When was the Signal Corps first communications satellite launched, what was the name of the project, and with whom did the Signal Corps work with to get this project rolling?

Project SCORE, in 1958 with Air Force assistance

- When was Camp Gordon established as a military installation?

July 1941. It was renamed Fort Gordon on March 21, 1956.

[flyBoy2010]

1,680 cut through the Alaskan wildrness in 6 months in winter and mud season. That takes tens of thousands of men.

Okay, can you show me a source that says it is the largest project.]

Edit:
The Manhattan Project took over 47,000 workers. How does that make the number of people involved make it the biggest?

[armysc_25b]

- When was Camp Gordon established as a military installation?

July 1941. It was renamed Fort Gordon on March 21, 1956.

This is the only one that's not what I was looking for. The funds to build the installation were authorized in July. What date was the groundbreaking/flag-raising ceremony (month will due if an exact date isn't available)?

Otherwise, you need to stop being so darn Goggle-friendly!

[flyBoy2010]

Sorry, I could only find the month: October, 1941.

Also, my apologizes for being Google friendly.:D

[Billyd]

Please excuse the interruption. The following amendment to the rules for this thread are now in effect:

Trivia questions will only be posed by adult members of the forum.

I now return you to your regularly scheduled programming.

P.S. All non-essential postings will be removed.

[soccermark23]

Alright cadets, what is the significance of this: 2W171

I want you to break it down piece by piece and give a very good description of what each character represents and the significance of the code as a whole. Good luck.

[armysc_25b]

Sorry, I could only find the month: October, 1941.

Also, my apologizes for being Google friendly.:D

18 October 1941. I have an old Fort Gordon Study Guide for Soldier of the _____ boards, and that's one of the questions. I would sure hope someone on the installation could at least get that info correct!

And just to give a time line thru the rest of 1941, COL Herbert Schmid and staff established the camp's HQ's on 2 December in a room at the US Post Office building. On 9 December, the HQ's was moved to the un-finished building on the installation and it was officially activated that day. 4th Infantry Division, which was activated 1 June 1940, arrived to the camp on 17 December.

I here-by revoke your trivia privileges :devil: LOL

[armysc_25b]

Alright cadets, what is the significance of this: 2W171

I want you to break it down piece by piece and give a very good description of what each character represents and the significance of the code as a whole. Good luck.
Besides one of TOP's *censored* (leaving it out to not ruin it for the cadets). Only a guess based on a certain character...

[flyBoy2010]

Alright cadets, what is the significance of this: 2W171

I want you to break it down piece by piece and give a very good description of what each character represents and the significance of the code as a whole. Good luck.

It is Aircraft Armament Systems Craftsman.

2 - Maintenance/Logistics
W - Munitions & Weapons
1 - Career Field Subdivision (I couldn't find which one"1" was)
7 - Craftsman
1 - The specific AFSC

Edit:
The significance of the code as a whole is that it is the specific Air Force Specialty Code used to identify an Air Force Specialty.

[Billyd]

Besides one of TOP's *censored* (leaving it out to not ruin it for the cadets). Only a guess based on a certain character...

Speaking of Top, what was his at the time of his retirement from the Air National Guard?

[soccermark23]

It is Aircraft Armament Systems Craftsman.

2 - Maintenance/Logistics
W - Munitions & Weapons
1 - Career Field Subdivision (I couldn't find which one"1" was)
7 - Craftsman
1 - The specific AFSC

Edit:
The significance of the code as a whole is that it is the specific Air Force Specialty Code used to identify an Air Force Specialty.

Good job. The Career Field Subdivision '1' stands specifically for Armament Systems.

0 - Munitions
1 - Armament Systems
2 - Nukes

[flyBoy2010]

Good job. The Career Field Subdivision '1' stands specifically for Armament Systems.

0 - Munitions
1 - Armament Systems
2 - Nukes

Thanks, that one was a tough one to decipher.

[soccermark23]

Here's another one cadets.

Where and when was the treaty ending the Russo Japanese War signed? I am not only looking for the location, but also the building.

Also what event took place at that same location in the past 2 weeks?

[Buffa1oso1di3r]

Building 86, Portsmouth Naval Ship yard, New Hampshire.

What happened there in the past 2 weeks: The arrival of the USS Oklahoma City [?]

[soccermark23]

Building 86, Portsmouth Naval Ship yard, New Hampshire.

What happened there in the past 2 weeks: The arrival of the USS Oklahoma City [?]

First part is correct, the USS Oklahoma City is wrong, try again.

[flyBoy2010]

The USS New Hampshire was commishioned there.

[soccermark23]

The USS New Hampshire was commishioned there.

Correct the USS New Hampshire is the newest of the Virginia Class submarines.

[armysc_25b]

What award is authorized for all personnel meeting criteria in South Korea? What date was the award created? Why is it categorized as what it is?

[El Supremo]

What award is authorized for all personnel meeting criteria in South Korea? What date was the award created? Why is it categorized as what it is?

Korean Presidential Unit Citation, 1950.

[armysc_25b]

Korean Presidential Unit Citation, 1950.
Incorrect...

Though that award has been presented numerous times to units in the country, and individuals wear it (at least in the Army) while assigned there, it is not awarded to every person stationed there.

[C/ZOOMIE]

Are Cadets alowd to ask questions? If so: What country invaded which British provence in 1982 forcing the British to retaliate in a massive counter A** kicking? :D C'mon guys, not that hard. :)

[soccermark23]

Are Cadets alowd to ask questions? If so: What country invaded which British provence in 1982 forcing the British to retaliate in a massive counter A** kicking? :D C'mon guys, not that hard. :)

No, adults and moderators only.

[Billyd]

Besides one of TOP's *censored* (leaving it out to not ruin it for the cadets). Only a guess based on a certain character...

Speaking of Top, what was his at the time of his retirement from the Air National Guard?

I see this one hasn't been answered yet. While he never came out and said it, there are enough posts here at Grunt's to determine what it was.

[armysc_25b]

What award is authorized for all personnel meeting criteria in South Korea? What date was the award created? Why is it categorized as what it is?
And I'm surprised this one hasn't been answered yet. The base of the answer is quite simple I think (hint, I have it).

[Buffa1oso1di3r]

What I've gathered is that it's either 2000 or 2001... no exact date though.

[C/ZOOMIE]

No, adults and moderators only.

Oh, sorry, Sir. I didn't see anything in about in in the ROE that's why I was asking just to be safe. :)

[flyBoy2010]

Air Force Overseas Short Tour Service Ribbon created on October 12, 1980. It is categorized as it is because most short overseas tours in the USAF are to South Korea, but there other locations that still fall under this award.

[Billyd]

No, that award is only presented to Air Force personnel. The award armySC_25b is referring to is awarded to ALL military personnel stationed in Korea. BTW, I am still awaiting a response on my last question.

[mtnsldr]

And I'm surprised this one hasn't been answered yet. The base of the answer is quite simple I think (hint, I have it).

It is simple. A quick check of any rackbuilder should give everyone the answer...

Hint... I don't have it...

[Buffa1oso1di3r]

BillyD, I already answered it... but I'll repost it...

2000 or 2001... judging off of a certain picture...

25B: The Korea Defense Service Medal, created in 2002 by George W. Bush for any service medal with more than 30 consecutive days in the Korean Theater.

[Billyd]

BillyD, I already answered it... but I'll repost it...

2000 or 2001... judging off of a certain picture...

25B: The Korea Defense Service Medal, created in 2002 by George W. Bush for any service medal with more than 30 consecutive days in the Korean Theater.


2000 or 2001 doesn't answer the question. I am not asking about when Top retired, which might possibly answer that question. I am talking about the 2W171 equivelant (for lack of a better description) that Top had at retirement.

Hint: Top was orginally trained as a Weapons Troop (2W171), but did not retire as one (officially).

[Buffa1oso1di3r]

Oh... ok. Be back later with an answer.

May I have a hint?

[armysc_25b]

In response to:

What award is authorized for all personnel meeting criteria in South Korea? What date was the award created? Why is it categorized as what it is?

Contestant #2 answered:

25B: The Korea Defense Service Medal, created in 2002 by George W. Bush for any service medal with more than 30 consecutive days in the Korean Theater.

You receive partial credit. The medal was signed into law in Section 543 of the 2003 Defense Authorization Act, which President Bush signed into law on 2 December 2002 (Public Law 107-314) (source: The Institute of Heraldry). The design was approved 3 March 2003. 2 parts down, 1 to go...

[Drill for life]

Korean Defense It was made in July 28 1954.Easy

[Billyd]

Korean Defense It was made in July 28 1954.Easy

I presume you are referring to the Korean Service medal. Check the award criteria:

The Korean Service Medal was awarded for service between 27 June 1950 and 27 July 1954 under and of the following conditions:

ArmySC_25B is not old enough to meet the criteria and for that matter, neither am I. However, as Buffa1oso1di3r pointed out, the Korean Defense Service Medal is authorized for:


The Korea Defense Service Medal (KDSM) is authorized to members of the Armed Forces who have served on active duty in support of the defense of the Republic of Korea from 28 July 1954 to a date to be determined. The area of eligibility encompasses all land area of the Republic of Korea, and the contiguous water out to 12 nautical miles, and all air spaces above the land and water areas.

Details, the devil is in the details :devil:

[armysc_25b]

The Korean Service Medal was awarded for service between 27 June 1950 and 27 July 1954 under and of the following conditions:

ArmySC_25B is not old enough to meet the criteria and for that matter, neither am I.

Well, you know, I actually keep myself quite fit for being 75 years old, and still in the service. ;) :devil:

[Drill for life]

I presume you are referring to the Korean Service medal. Check the award criteria:



ArmySC_25B is not old enough to meet the criteria and for that matter, neither am I. However, as Buffa1oso1di3r pointed out, the Korean Defense Service Medal is authorized for:



Details, the devil is in the details :devil:

Then why does my AI have it. He got out in 1992 and he has it on his rack.

[armysc_25b]

Then why does my AI have it. He got out in 1992 and he has it on his rack.

Are we talking about the same award here? Two distinct awards, two distinct ribbons:

http://www.tioh.hqda.pentagon.mil/Graphics/RibbonKoreanSvcMedal.gif
Korean Service Medal

http://www.tioh.hqda.pentagon.mil/Graphics/KorDefSvcMedalRibbon.JPG
Korea Defense Service Medal

[armysc_25b]

Ya, I know, double-tap... So sue me!

Still looking for the complete answer to this:

In response to:

What award is authorized for all personnel meeting criteria in South Korea? What date was the award created? Why is it categorized as what it is?

Contestant #2 answered:

25B: The Korea Defense Service Medal, created in 2002 by George W. Bush for any service medal with more than 30 consecutive days in the Korean Theater.

You receive partial credit. The medal was signed into law in Section 543 of the 2003 Defense Authorization Act, which President Bush signed into law on 2 December 2002 (Public Law 107-314) (source: The Institute of Heraldry). The design was approved 3 March 2003. 2 parts down, 1 to go...

[Buffa1oso1di3r]

Drill For Life: The Korean Defense Service Medal can be awarded to retired personnel who meet the required criteria who served after 1954. :P

Final part of the answer: Still searching...


EDIT: May I please have a hint to point me in the right direction?

[armysc_25b]

There are different categories of awards. What category would it fall under, and why does it fit in this category?

[Buffa1oso1di3r]

Categories as in DoD Decorations, Federal Military Decorations, and Federal Service Medals?

[armysc_25b]

Negative. Decorations, Campaign Medals, Service Medals, etc. would be where this falls.

[Buffa1oso1di3r]

The Korean Defense Service Medal is a Campiagn Medal because the war between North and South Korea, which involved us, never officially ended.

[armysc_25b]

And with that, the quest for the answer I wanted is complete.

[Billyd]

Oh... ok. Be back later with an answer.

May I have a hint?

It's the reason he is called "Top."

[Buffa1oso1di3r]

I figured out that part of the code...

Well, was he still in Munitions before he retired?

EDIT: Here goes:

2W1X0 (Or 9)

[Billyd]

No, he wasn't.

Second Hint:

Take a look at some of Top's posts and get a feel for what he did and I will become clear. I think once you can answer the question of "Why is he called Top?" You will figure it out.

[Buffa1oso1di3r]

2W291 or 2W271...

For some reason, I think he worked with nuclear weapons...

Whoo, confirmed, straight from him:

Nuke Certified Weapons Loader

From the Cadet Lounge Section...

[Billyd]

I don't know if Top was ever nuke certified, so I can't say if that AFSC was one he ever held.

You are overlooking part of the hint. Why is Top called Top? Answer that and all will be clear.

[C/ZOOMIE]

ANG1SGT was well, a First Sgt! Top is a traditional nick name for 1st Sgt's and so I'm guessing that's why we call him "Top"? This is coming from a former C/CMSgt/1st Sgt.

[Buffa1oso1di3r]

Because he was a First Sergeant (E-7), which is the top enlistedman in an Air Force unit that reports directly to the commander, and is responsible for the morale, welfare and conduct of all enlisted members...

[C/ZOOMIE]

Because he was a First Sergeant (E-7), which is the top enlistedman in an Air Force unit that reports directly to the commander, and is responsible for the morale, welfare and conduct of all enlisted members...

Read the post directly above you. ;)

[Buffa1oso1di3r]

Hey, it's not my fault that my computer is slower. ;)

[C/ZOOMIE]

Hey, it's not my fault that my computer is slower. ;)

Riiiiiiiiiight. ;) But yeah, I think we BOTH got it correct.......but I was first! :D

[Buffa1oso1di3r]

But my answer is more complete! :p

I guess we wait for the judges...

[TruBlu]

Riiiiiiiiiight. ;) But yeah, I think we BOTH got it correct.......but I was first! :D

Its not a competition of speed my friend, its a competition of knowledge and ability to research. Speed isn't a factor really, then we could call it Jeopardy and start answering in questions. Just kidding, but really speed doesn't matter so much, but content and quality.

This is coming from a guy who hasn't answered one of these correctly yet though lol!

[armysc_25b]

Well, I'll be honest. I don't think you've fulfilled Billyd's question, yet. Look at the first post he mentions this in, and all other posts relating to this question, and go from there. The info you've given about TOP is right, but there's a detail that's missing...

[Buffa1oso1di3r]

He asked what Top's AFSC was when he retired...

[armysc_25b]

He asked what Top's AFSC was when he retired...
That he did... So what was it?

[AlphaNovember]

8F000

Special Duty Assignment AFSC for First Sergeant.

[Billyd]

Ding Ding Ding! We have a winner. Yes indeed, Top was the First Sergeant of his unit when he retired with an AFSC of 8F000. As such, he is permitted to wear his diamond on those occasions that uniform wear would be appropriate. Had he returned to his original job, he would have to remove the diamond device.

Just as a side note, in the Air Force, a First Sergeant can be a Master Sergeant, a Senior Master Sergeant, or a Chief Master Sergeant. Which leads to the next question.

What determines the rank of a unit's First Sergeant? Careful with this one, it may not be as straightforward as it seems :devil:

[Buffa1oso1di3r]

How large the unit is... (I think...)

[Billyd]

How large the unit is... (I think...)

Is that your final answer?

[Buffa1oso1di3r]

Nooo!

Ok, it's either how large the unit is, or the rank of the enlisted man when they volunteered for the First Sergeant position...

[Billyd]

Nooo!

Ok, it's either how large the unit is, or the rank of the enlisted man when they volunteered for the First Sergeant position...

LOL. Well, one or the other is correct, but which one? Oh to make the right choice. I guess you would need to know something about how First Sergeant assignments are doles out ;)

[AlphaNovember]

LOL. Well, one or the other is correct, but which one? Oh to make the right choice. I guess you would need to know something about how First Sergeant assignments are doles out ;)

I'm going to venture to say that their current rank is what determines their rank while assigned as first sergeant.

After reading this Chief Master Sergeant's assignments and dates of promotion, I saw that he was first sergeant at the squadron and group level, and remained at those command levels despite going through the ranks, up to E-9: http://www.travis.af.mil/library/biographies/bio.asp?id=10384

Assignments:

6. April 1994 - July 1995, first sergeant, 14th Airlift Squadron, 437th Airlift Wing, Charleston Air Force Base, S.C.
7. July 1995 - June 1997, first sergeant, 437th Medical Group, 437th Airlift Wing, CharlestonAir Force Base, S.C.
8. June 1997 - April 1999, first sergeant, 637th Aircraft Generation Squadron, 437th Airlift Wing, Charleston Air Force Base, S.C.
9. June 1999 - September 2001, first sergeant, 437th Supply Squadron, 437th Airlift Wing, Charleston Air Force Base, S.C.
10. October 2001 - August 2002, first sergeant, 60th Fighter Squadron, 33rd Fighter Wing, Eglin Air Force Base, Fla.
11. August 2002 - June 2003, first sergeant, 33rd Aircraft Maintenance Squadron, 33rd Fighter Wing, Eglin Air Force Base, Fla.
12. June 2003 - August 2004, first sergeant, 33rd Maintenance Squadron, 33rd Fighter Wing, Eglin Air Force Base, Fla.

Dates of promotion:
Master Sergeant July 1992
Senior Master Sergeant September 1998
Chief Master Sergeant April 2003

[Billyd]

Might want to do a bit more research. First Sergeants are still eligible for promotion so a Master Sergeant First Sergeant still competes for promotion to Senior Master Sergeant. The usual time in grade and time in service restrictions apply. They compete aginst other First Sergeants.

Let me repeat the question here:

What determines the rank of a unit's First Sergeant? Careful with this one, it may not be as straightforward as it seems :devil:

[Buffa1oso1di3r]

I'll just go with the size of the unit. Why? Because larger units would normally have a person of higher rank in command. Like... in the Army.

Company First Sergeant
Battalion Command Sergeant Major.

[Billyd]

Looks like partial credit to me. Can you refine your answer?

[Buffa1oso1di3r]

The size of the unit determines the pay-grade of the First Sergeant, as smaller units (Such as Squadrons) would draw their First Sergeants from Master Sergeants, and larger units, such as Groups and Wings, would draw their First Sergeants from Senior and Chief Master Sergeants.

(Coming from my vague knowledge of US Air Force Organization).

[Billyd]

Not quite. I have been in squadrons where the First Sergeant was a Senior Master Sergeant and Groups where the First Sergeant was a Master Sergeant. You are on the right track.

[Billyd]

Am I to presume that no refinement is forthcoming? Buffa1oso1di3r, you are on the right track with your last post, just need to take one step further.

[armysc_25b]

And I'm back with another round of Fort Gordon/Signal Corps trivia (so sue me, it's easy to come by around here).

- When did Fort Gordon become the "Second Home of the Signal Corps"?
- What installation was the Home of the Signal Corps prior to this?
- What other installation was in consideration to become the "Second Home of the Signal Corps"? Why was Fort Gordon chosen over this installation, and what is this installation now the home of?

[Buffa1oso1di3r]

Am I to presume that no refinement is forthcoming? Buffa1oso1di3r, you are on the right track with your last post, just need to take one step further.

Refinement is forthcoming, I've just been thinking about it... hard.

EDIT: Alright, I think I have an answer:

The pay-grade of the First Sergeant depends on the size of the unit because larger units would require more work from someone than a smaller unit, and, larger units would have a larger number of Master Sergeants/Senior Master Sergeants/Chief Master Sergeants, and so, whoever would be selected for that position would have to hold the highest rank (enlisted wise...)... I think...

[Billyd]

Not necessarily true. Since you seem to be struggling with this one let me provide another hint.

Size of a unit takes into account several factors. One of those factors determines the rank of the First Sergeant. In fact, there are units in the Air Force that do not even have a First Sergeant.

[PhoenixCadet]

- When did Fort Gordon become the "Second Home of the Signal Corps"?

June 1985

- What installation was the Home of the Signal Corps prior to this?

Fort Monmouth, NJ. I had an uncle who was in the Army during Vietnam, he branched Signals, and was scheduled to go to Signal OCS at Monmouth.

Interestingly enough, the town in Monmouth County that my family owns a beach house in (extended family), used to contain the HQ to the Signal Corps Ground Service during WWII (Bradley Beach, NJ).

And as for your last question, I cannot find an answer - so I'll let someone more qualified have a go.

[Buffa1oso1di3r]

While I'm searching for an answer to BillyD's queston...

25B: I'm going to have to take a guess and say Fort Huachuca, which is the current home of the Army Intelligence Community...

Signals Intelligence... Intelligence... Fort Huachuca... 9th Signal Command...

Makes slight sense.

EDIT: Aye... BillyD, I'm going to have to give on this one... I've searched practically everywhere... and nothing helps...

[TruBlu]

Not necessarily true. Since you seem to be struggling with this one let me provide another hint.

Size of a unit takes into account several factors. One of those factors determines the rank of the First Sergeant. In fact, there are units in the Air Force that do not even have a First Sergeant.

The missing factor is the role of the unit? So the First Sergeant's rank would reflect on the size and the role of the unit that he/she is assigned.

[Billyd]

Well, looks like I found a toughie :devil:. Ok, here is the skinny on the rank of the First Sergeant assigned to a unit.

The rank of the First Sergeant is related to the NUMBER of ENLISTED personnel assigned to a unit. If a unit has no enlisted, there is no First Sergeant. Keep in mind that unit size/strength is based upon the number of assigned personnel, military (officer and enlisted) and civilian.

I am at school right now, so I will try to post a new question later this evening.

[Buffa1oso1di3r]

Well, thank you Sir for making this cadet feel like an idiot. :p

Man, I feel stupid... the answer is so simple... yet, I kept on dancing around it... and never came to it... >_<

[TruBlu]

Oh man, what a simple explanation. I was going to say something about units with no officers like fighter squadrons, but didn't really know how to relate it to the question. Of course that was actually the relation...

[armysc_25b]

- When did Fort Gordon become the "Second Home of the Signal Corps"?

June 1985

Incorrect. Earlier.

The second answer is correct, and that's an interesting story to go with it. As far as the third question, I don't know if that one's actually on the internet anywhere (my source is an old Fort Gordon Study Guide if anyone can find THAT).

[PhilK]

What does RFI stand for? (Two different answers are acceptable)

[TruBlu]

What does RFI stand for? (Two different answers are acceptable)

The most definition I found was "Radio Frequency Interface." The one that makes the most sense to me outside of said definition is "Request For Information."

[flyBoy2010]

It can also mean "ready for issue."

[PhilK]

The most definition I found was "Radio Frequency Interface." The one that makes the most sense to me outside of said definition is "Request For Information."

Request for Info is one of the two.

[MP_Girl]

RFI —Rapid Fielding Initiative, Request For Information, Ready For Issue

The only ones I can think of...

[PhoenixCadet]

Request for Intelligence, Representative of a Foreign Interest...

[PhilK]

RFI —Rapid Fielding Initiative


And we have the second answer.

Now...what does it mean?

[Buffa1oso1di3r]

The Rapid Fielding Initiative is a program in the Army to give soldiers in the two theaters of combat (OIF and OEF) the equipment that they need and weren't given in the beginning of each conflict, as well as new gear, optics, magazines, gloves, etc.

[AlphaNovember]

Incorrect. Earlier.

October 1st, 1974?

[Billyd]

With all the focus on the elections, I came up with the following question related to government.

As you all know, the Legislative Branch of the federal government is composed of a bicameral legislature. Of the several states, how many of them also have a bicameral legislature?

[PhoenixCadet]

Of the several states, how many of them also have a bicameral legislature?

I'm commin' up with every state, except Nebraska.

[CAPSmith]

Still trivia related, but more in a "hey check this out" kind of way. For those of you interested in legislative bodies, the New Hampshire Executive Council is pretty unique. Here's a link for their history: http://www.nh.gov/council/history.html

[armysc_25b]

October 1st, 1974?

That is correct.

- What other installation was in consideration to become the "Second Home of the Signal Corps"? Why was Fort Gordon chosen over this installation, and what is this installation now the home of?

Still waiting for this answer. I realize it MAY not be online, and I'll post the answer to it in a couple days if nobody is able to find it.

[Billyd]

PC,

Need to re-read the question. It is worded that way for a reason. You know how I am about the details.

[armysc_25b]

Either people gave up or became interested in other topics on the forum, either way, as promised here is the answer to my last question.

- What other installation was in consideration to become the "Second Home of the Signal Corps"? Why was Fort Gordon chosen over this installation, and what is this installation now the home of?

Fort Huachuca, AZ, was the other installation. Fort Gordon was chosen because "The majority of the soldiers were recruited on the East Coast and returned there (or sent to Europe) later. It was more cost-effective to train the soldiers on the East Coast as they prepared to move." Fort Huachuca is now the home of the MI Corps.

[devin0116]

When the Blue Angels were first formed, where did they train?

[C.A.P. Flight Officer]

Jacksonville Naval Air Station in Jacksonville, Florida.?

[PhoenixCadet]

Jacksonville Naval Air Station in Jacksonville, Florida.?

IIRC, yes. In 1946, flying the F6F Hellcat.

[devin0116]

Y'all are too good for me I thought that was difficult:D.

What is the nickname for the Blue Angels C-130 ?

[flyBoy2010]

The ROE state that only adults are allowed to ask questions.

Just a friendly heads up.:)

By the way it's Fat Albert.

[devin0116]

Oh, my apologies then. Just thought I try to get this going a bit.

[flyBoy2010]

Not a problem, just trying to watch your back.

[-BuLL-]

Since none of you are going to get it, the largest construction project of WWII was the Alaskan Highway. The road was 1,680 miles through the middle of Alaska from Dawson Creek to Delta Junction. Started March 8, 1942 and finished September 24, 1942.

I know this is a late post and a bit off topic but my grandad was in charge of this project. He was the Deputy Director of Highway Transportation Department or some title like that.

[Billyd]

All right. I appologize for the delay in preparing new questions, but we had some housekeeping chores here and I had to go out of town for a few days. Back in the saddle and ready to go, but the questions is are you ready for some more trivia?

If you are, here is one that should keep you busy for a day or so (I hope). When General Yeagar flew the Bell X-1 to a speed of 698 mph at an altitude of 23000 feet, he became the first man to do what? For a bonus, what name did he christen the aircraft with and why was that name significant to him?

[flyBoy2010]

All right. I appologize for the delay in preparing new questions, but we had some housekeeping chores here and I had to go out of town for a few days. Back in the saddle and ready to go, but the questions is are you ready for some more trivia?

If you are, here is one that should keep you busy for a day or so (I hope). When General Yeagar flew the Bell X-1 to a speed of 698 mph at an altitude of 23000 feet, he became the first man to do what? For a bonus, what name did he christen the aircraft with and why was that name significant to him?

Always ready!:D

He became the first man to break the sound barrier.

His aircraft was named Glamorous Glennis after his wife.

[Billyd]

Alright, Can you convert MPH to Mach?

[flyBoy2010]

Sure, Mach 1.06

[Billyd]

While its top speed and service altitude is still classified, what aircraft operated at the edge of space and could cruise at a speed in excess of Mach 3?

[flyBoy2010]

While its top speed and service altitude is still classified, what aircraft operated at the edge of space and could cruise at a speed in excess of Mach 3?

That's easy, the X-15!

[Billyd]

That's easy, the X-15!


That would not be the answer that I am looking for. But, I would like to see your reference.

[AlphaNovember]

While its top speed and service altitude is still classified, what aircraft operated at the edge of space and could cruise at a speed in excess of Mach 3?

SR-71 Blackbird

[Billyd]

And we have a winner! The SR-71 has a little sister. Not as fast nor as big. Do you know her name?

[TruBlu]

The YF-12 Interceptor is my guess.

[flyBoy2010]

That would not be the answer that I am looking for. But, I would like to see your reference.

Here it is: http://history.nasa.gov/SP-60/ch-4.html

X-15 pilots were the only pilots that could actually earn the "astronaut" rating outside of the space program.

I apologize, I should have read your question better. The X-15 could go into space and reach Mach 6.

[flyBoy2010]

The YF-12 Interceptor is my guess.

Both the YF-12 and the SR-71 were developed from the Lockheed A-12

Edit: As well as the D-21, which was a mini drone version meant to be launched off of the back of the A-12. As well as the M-21, which was the A-12 variant developed to carry the D-21.

[TruBlu]

Both the YF-12 and the SR-71 were developed from the Lockheed A-12

Edit: As well as the D-21, which was a mini drone version meant to be launched off of the back of the A-12. As well as the M-21, which was the A-12 variant developed to carry the D-21.

Dad used to work with Lockheed Martin, I asked him about it after looking a little bit, and that's what he said.

I didn't know anything about drones being launched off the back of any of these, I'll have to check that out.

[flyBoy2010]

Here's a link to the info: http://www.wvi.com/~sr71webmaster/d21~1.htm

Edit: I've actually seen some sources saying that the launch plane designation was the M-12 and some saying that it was M-21. I'm pretty sure that it's M-21. Anyone know for sure?

[TruBlu]

Here's a link to the info: http://www.wvi.com/~sr71webmaster/d21~1.htm

Edit: I've actually seen some sources saying that the launch plane designation was the M-12 and some saying that it was M-21. I'm pretty sure that it's M-21. Anyone know for sure?

The picture jogged my memory, I do remember seeing on of these. I remember I was at an air museum with an SR-71 on display there, and a picture of one of those. I think it was the National Air and Space Museum in Washington, but it was a while back.

[flyBoy2010]

The picture jogged my memory, I do remember seeing on of these. I remember I was at an air museum with an SR-71 on display there, and a picture of one of those. I think it was the National Air and Space Museum in Washington, but it was a while back.

That website said where all of the drones ended up. One is at the USAF Museum in Ohio, one at the Museum of Flight in Seattle, Pima Air and Space Museum in Arizona, Evergreen Aviation Museum in Oregon, and Museum of Aviation on Robins AFB in Georgia.

[TruBlu]

That website said where all of the drones ended up. One is at the USAF Museum in Ohio, one at the Museum of Flight in Seattle, Pima Air and Space Museum in Arizona, Evergreen Aviation Museum in Oregon, and Museum of Aviation on Robins AFB in Georgia.

Yeah I looked at that, I said picture tho. An actual, demilitarized Blackbird was at the museum, and that was really cool. And the best thing, they let you get into the cockpit of it and check it all out from the inside. I even remember my dad climbing in and he looked like a kid in a candy store lol!

[Billyd]

The YF-12 Interceptor is my guess.

While certainly a good guess, not exactly the answer I am looking for. Consider the mission of the SR-71 and I think you will figure out who I am asking about.

[flyBoy2010]

Would it be the U-2?

[Billyd]

That would be the answer that I am looking for. Now, we all know the SR-71 is referred to as "Blackbird." What "name" is the U-2 also known by? As a bonus, can you also indicate some of the variants?

[C/ZOOMIE]

That would be the answer that I am looking for. Now, we all know the SR-71 is referred to as "Blackbird." What "name" is the U-2 also known by? As a bonus, can you also indicate some of the variants?

The U-2 is called by most people "Dragon Lady".

Here are some variants:

U-2A
Initial production, single-seat; 48 built

U-2B
Two-seat trainer; 5 built

U-2C
Enhanced single-seat model with improved engine and modified engine intakes
U-2D

Enhanced two-seat trainer; unknown built
U-2CT

Enhanced two-seat trainer rebuilt from U-2D airframes with relocation of the seats; 6 known converted
U-2G

A-models modified with reinforced landing gear, added arresting hook, and wing spoilers for US Navy carrier operations; 3 converted
U-2R

C-models enlarged and improved with underwing pods and increased fuel capacity; 12 built
U-2RT

Enhanced two-seat R-model trainer; 1 built

[Billyd]

Very good! Keeping with the aircraft names theme, there have been 2 aircraft known by the name "Thunderbolt" and ironically enough, both were produced by the same company. Can you provide me with the following:

Official designation:
Years of Service:
Manufacturer:

Have fun!

[flyBoy2010]

Very good! Keeping with the aircraft names theme, there have been 2 aircraft known by the name "Thunderbolt" and ironically enough, both were produced by the same company. Can you provide me with the following:

Official designation:
Years of Service:
Manufacturer:

Have fun!

Official designation: P-47
Years of Service: 1942-1955 (first flight May 6, 1941)
Manufacturer: Republic

Official Designation: A-10
Years of Service: 1977-present (first flight May 10, 1972)
Manufacturer: Fairchild-Republic

[armysc_25b]

Since I'm studying for my board tomorrow, I'll throw a question or two in as I take my "cram breaks".

- Whose profile is on the Medal of Honor?
- When was the UCMJ enacted?
- Who makes up the court of military appeals?
- In 1785, a treaty was drafted with the Kingdom of Prussia and is considered the first agreement concerning wartime. Who was it drafted by and for what reason?

[Billyd]

Official designation: P-47
Years of Service: 1942-1955 (first flight May 6, 1941)
Manufacturer: Republic

Official Designation: A-10
Years of Service: 1977-present (first flight May 10, 1972)
Manufacturer: Fairchild-Republic

Very good.

Next is what do the designators "P" and "A" stand for in regards to American military aircraft?

As a bonus, there is a variant of the A-10, the OA-10. What does that designation stand for?

[TruBlu]

Very good.

Next is what do the designators "P" and "A" stand for in regards to American military aircraft?

As a bonus, there is a variant of the A-10, the OA-10. What does that designation stand for?

P stands for Maritime Patrol.

A stands for Ground Attack.

OA stands for Observational Ground Attack.

[flyBoy2010]

P actually stood for "Pursuit" in the time the P-47 was around.

[TruBlu]

P actually stood for "Pursuit" in the time the P-47 was around.

Ah, but not today? I did not know this.

[flyBoy2010]

The "P" designation was changed to "F" after the AF became a separate branch.

The first "P" designation you were referring to was the P-2 Neptune (they skipped P-1), which was used from 1947 - 1978. Before 1962 it was known as the P2V.

However, neither of the designations can be compared because the P-47 is Air Force and the P-2 (P2V) is Navy. Until 1962 the different branches had different designation systems. The "P" designation being used for Patrol began in the Unified System. That's why the P2V changed to the P-2.

[TruBlu]

The "P" designation was changed to "F" after the AF became a separate branch.

The first "P" designation you were referring to was the P-2 Neptune (they skipped P-1), which was used from 1947 - 1978. Before 1962 it was known as the P2V.

However, neither of the designations can be compared because the P-47 is Air Force and the P-2 (P2V) is Navy. Until 1962 the different branches had different designation systems. The "P" designation being used for Patrol began in the Unified System. That's why the P2V changed to the P-2.

But in 1962 it was standardized correct?

[flyBoy2010]

Yes, that's when the "P" designation was resurrected and used for Patrol.

[Billyd]

Very good. flyBoy2010 is dead on again. Yes, it is quite confusing at times, but you have to pay attention to when a particular aircraft was active and what its role was. I can see that I am going to have to dig really deep into my bag of tricks to stump you all. Have no fear, I am fairly confident that I can find a question that flyBoy2010 will not be able to answer (insert evil laugh here).

[flyBoy2010]

I'm ready for whatever you got!:p:D

[C/ZOOMIE]

Please do post another trivia question, Sir!

[CAPSmith]

What event is about to occur in the Army that hasn't happened since 1961?

[devin0116]

I don't know 24/7 mess'??

[Drill for life]

I don't know 24/7 mess'??

Hahahaha that was very funny.

[devin0116]

Hahahaha that was very funny.

It was suppose to be....:D

[Buffa1oso1di3r]

What event is about to occur in the Army that hasn't happened since 1961?

A battlefield promotion?

[flyBoy2010]

A battlefield promotion?

I think that's right. I thought I heard something about that on the news. Will do more research and get back to you.

[flyBoy2010]

Sorry, I was wrong. It is an execution. It is for an Army cook convicted of multiple rapes and murders.

[Buffa1oso1di3r]

Holy...

That's... woah... this is the first time I've heard about this...

[flyBoy2010]

Holy...

That's... woah... this is the first time I've heard about this...

It has... maybe just not that much.

[armysc_25b]

You know... There's still a set of questions floating around out there...

Since I'm studying for my board tomorrow, I'll throw a question or two in as I take my "cram breaks".

- Whose profile is on the Medal of Honor?
- When was the UCMJ enacted?
- Who makes up the court of military appeals?
- In 1785, a treaty was drafted with the Kingdom of Prussia and is considered the first agreement concerning wartime. Who was it drafted by and for what reason?

[Buffa1oso1di3r]

- Whose profile is on the Medal of Honor?
- When was the UCMJ enacted?
- Who makes up the court of military appeals?
- In 1785, a treaty was drafted with the Kingdom of Prussia and is considered the first agreement concerning wartime. Who was it drafted by and for what reason?

1. Minerva, the roman goddess of wisdom and righteous war
2. In 1950.
3. The Court was originally composed of three civilian judges appointed by the President of the United States for a normal term of 15 years and confirmed by the Senate of the United States. However, effective October 1, 1990, Congress increased the membership on this Federal Court to five civilian judges, maintaining the original appointment and confirmation process. Except for ceremonial sessions and special hearing sessions held in various sections of the United States, the Court sits only in Washington, D.C.
4. Treaty of Amity and Commerce , signed at the Hague (on behalf of Prussia) September 10, 1785, and previously (on behalf of the United States) at Passy (Franklin) July 9, 1785, at Paris (Jefferson) July 28, 1785, and at London (Adams) August 5, 1785. Original in French and English. Ratified by the United States May 17, 1786. Ratified by Prussia September 24, 1785. Ratifications exchanged at the Hague August 8, 1786. Proclaimed May 17, 1786.

So uh... as for #4 -- It was drafted by Benjamin Franklin for trade and other things with Prussia.

[flyBoy2010]

- Whose profile is on the Medal of Honor?

Minerva

- When was the UCMJ enacted?

June 30, 1775

- Who makes up the court of military appeals?

Andrew S. Effron (Chief Judge)

James E. Baker

Charles E. “Chip” Erdmann

Scott W. Stucky

Margaret A. Ryan

- In 1785, a treaty was drafted with the Kingdom of Prussia and is considered the first agreement concerning wartime. Who was it drafted by

Frederick William de Thulemeier
Thomas Jefferson
Benjamin Franklin
John Adams

and for what reason?
Establish rules for trade between the two countries, in peacetime or wartime.

[CAPSmith]

Sorry, I was wrong. It is an execution. It is for an Army cook convicted of multiple rapes and murders.

*Ding *Ding...That is correct.

[armysc_25b]

flyboy and Buffa1o you're both right in your own ways.

Minerva, easy...

As far as the UCMJ one goes, yes it was 1950. The UCMJ replaced the Articles of War, which had been around in some form since 1775, so partial credit for that date.

As far as the court of military appeals, the answer I had didn't have the personnel serving currently, but the description, so kudos to you both for your answers.

And the treaty was drawn up by Franklin, Jefferson, and Adams.

[Billyd]

Ok, I think I have the question to "Stump the Chump." That would be you flyBoy2010. And yes, I am calling you out on this one. And the rest of you, try to beat him this time, but, give him his due, he looks to be the reigning Trivia Champ of Grunt's Military Forum. Are you ready, put on your thinking caps and prepare to be amazed:

Who was the first African-American to become a combat pilot and subsequently, the first African-American Ace?

[Buffa1oso1di3r]

Eugene Bullard

[Billyd]

I will accept that spelling. Well done, Buffa1oso1di3r!

Now, let us enter the bonus round. In what war did Bullard serve and with what unit? Also, by what nickname was he known by?

[Buffa1oso1di3r]

1. World War I
2. Lafayette Flying Corps
3. The Black Swallow of Death

[Billyd]

Guess I will need to dig further in the dusty archives to find a question to stump you all. Stay tuned and check back later.

Are we having fun?

[Buffa1oso1di3r]

Oh, yes we are. :D

[Billyd]

Will be a couple of hours before I can check, but here is my next question:

When did the United States first conquer a foreign capital? For full credit, provide the following information:

Date:
City:
Commanding Officer:

[Buffa1oso1di3r]

On September 14, 1847, during the Mexican War, U.S. troops under the command of General Winfield Scott occupied Mexico City. Mexico made peace with the U.S. in 1848

[Billyd]

Just as a reminder, here are the rules of engagement again with a couple of additions.

1. One try per question. This is so everyone has an opportunity to participate.
2. The only reward is bragging rights.
3. Some questions may have multiple parts. Be aware as ALL parts of multi-part questions must be fulfilled.
4. Questions are based upon general military knowledge, but will require some research.
5. Clues may or may not be given at the sole discretion of the Moderator.
6. Trivia questions will only be posed by adult members of the forum.

It was suggested to me, your humble Trivia Master, that we provide a time period after the posting of a question where no answers will be accepted. After some discussion there will be a two hour wait from the posting of a question to the acceptance of answers. The time-stamp at the top of the post will be the official time. This is to provide those that may not be logged in at the time of the question an equal chance to respond. If you have any questions, feel free to PM me.

[Billyd]

On September 14, 1847, during the Mexican War, U.S. troops under the command of General Winfield Scott occupied Mexico City. Mexico made peace with the U.S. in 1848

Well done, that looks like the same source that I used. Have you got my keyboard tapped?

There has been some discussion about a Marine who is being awarded the Navy Cross posthumously rather than the Medal Of Honor that his family thinks he deserves. That, however, is not the question. My question to you is this:

The Air Force has had 59 Medals of Honor awarded, includes Army Air Corps. Of those 59, how many have been awarded to enlisted personnel?

Don't forget to check the timestamp, two hours must elapse before any answers will be accepted.

[ang1sgt]

BillyD, I think that the above question should include a "quotable" and "verifiable" source also. Just me thinking that's all.

[PhilK]

What General and later President of the United States was born on this date (Nov. 24th) in 1784?

How long did he serve in the Army and how long did he serve as President?

[TruBlu]

Content deleted. Per the ROE, respondent failed to wait the required two hours prior to posting.

[TruBlu]

OK, sorry about the first post being out of the required time, but it has now been two hours after the question's initial posting. Here's what I got:

What General and later President of the United States was born on this date (Nov. 24th) in 1784?

How long did he serve in the Army and how long did he serve as President?

Mr. Zachary Taylor, Whig. He served (as President) for fewer than 500 days, amongst the years of 1849 and 1850. He served in the Army for 41 years, eventually reaching Major General before his political endeavors.