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PhoenixCadet
10-23-2008, 04:00 PM
(If this belongs in the politics section, verus the news section - please move it. It didn't involve the actual candidates themself, so I figured it would play out better here.)
I wonder why this isn't in the lamestream media... :sleepy:
If it were the other way around - a McCain supporter causing the problems, it would be everywhere.
Woman Attacked, Mutilated for Having a McCain Bumper Sticker
Thursday, October 23, 2008
By Melanie Hunter-Omar
(CNSNews.com) – A 20-year-old woman in Pittsburgh was robbed, then attacked and mutilated by the assailant, who was angry when he saw a McCain bumper sticker on her car, according to a local television station.
WTAE-TV reports that the woman was robbed at knifepoint Wednesday night at an ATM outside of the Citizens Bank in Bloomfield.
After the robber stole her $60, the man became enraged by a McCain bumper sticker he saw on the victim’s car, and then punched and kicked her before using the knife to scratch the letter “B” into her face, according to Pittsburgh police spokeswoman Diane Richard.
The attack occurred outside the view of the bank’s surveillance cameras, Richard said. The woman refused medical treatment after the assault.
The suspect is described as a 6 ft. 4 in. tall dark-skinned black man, weighing 200 pounds, with a medium build, and short black hair and brown eyes. He was wearing dark-colored jeans, a black undershirt and black shoes.
Source:
http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=38055
mtnsldr
10-23-2008, 04:11 PM
Wow.
What's weird is I get the same hulk-esque urges when I see an Obama sticker...
Maybe we are all the same... :nervous:
What an animal. Any excuse to attack a woman. :nervous:
I would crave a B into his face, and remind him of what the Bobbit lady did.
DaveIn3D
10-24-2008, 02:21 AM
Dont overlook the fact that the 'B' was carved backwards onto the face. Much in the same way you would carve it if you were looking into a mirror. For the attacker to do it that way he would have had to stradle her forehead instead of her body. You couldnt hold down grandma while just holding her forehead. Also, in the pic, the 'B' does not look that deep. Someone who is attacking and mutilating you would not care about how deep the cut is. The deeper the better. The cut looks as if someone did it too themselves and that someone had a low threshold for pain. I can't really explain the black eye. But hell, some women just look better with irish sunglasses......
-3D
CAPSmith
10-24-2008, 01:17 PM
Follow up story: http://apnews.excite.com/article/20081024/D94106P03.html
Police: McCain volunteer changes ATM attack story
Oct 24, 1:14 PM (ET)
By JOE MANDAK
PITTSBURGH (AP) - A McCain campaign volunteer who reported that a tall black man robbed her and then cut a "B" onto her cheek after seeing a McCain bumper sticker on her car has been given a polygraph test because of "inconsistencies" in her story, police said.
Among other things, police said photos and bank card information from an automated teller machine where the college student claimed she was robbed do not show her using the machine at the time, police said.
Pittsburgh police spokeswoman Diane Richard wouldn't release the polygraph results, but said, "we're still looking at some inconsistencies" in the woman's story.
Police said the student, Ashley Todd, of College Station, Texas, who is white, told them she was attacked by a 6-foot-4 black man Wednesday night.
Richard said police have not ruled out that the woman was attacked as she claimed, and said inconsistencies deal primarily with how she described the attack.
"We're just trying to judge the validity of some of the information we received from her," Richard said. "We understand when you are under duress that sometimes you can't recollect things. We're just looking at all the angles."
Among the differences in her accounts are whether she lost consciousness, whether she remembers handing over money and how the man assaulted her, police said.
The report of the attack Thursday prompted the Republican presidential candidate and his running mate, Sarah Palin, to call Todd expressing their concern. Barack Obama's campaign also issued a statement wishing Todd well and hoping the attacker would be swiftly brought to justice.
The Associated Press could not immediately locate Todd or her family.
Ethan Eilon, executive director of the College Republican National Committee, told reporters that Todd worked in New York for several months before moving to Pennsylvania two weeks ago to continue working for the group.
Eilon declined to comment on the investigation Friday or to help The Associated Press contact Todd. In a follow-up e-mail, Eilon said, "We think this girl has endured enough and that this is going to be something for her and her family to work through."
Richard, the police spokeswoman, said police have pictures of the victim and her injuries, but are not releasing them. She said they are "more or less" consistent with a picture that has surfaced on the Internet that show a woman with a black eye and a red backward "B" that looks like a welt or scrape on her right cheek.
"It's not like her cheek was carved out," Richard said. "It's more like a scrape or a scratch."
In her initial account, Richard said, Todd attempted to use the ATM when the man approached her from behind, put a knife with a 4- to 5-inch blade to her throat and demanded money. She told police she handed the assailant $60 and walked away.
Todd told investigators that she suspected the man then noticed a John McCain sticker on her car, became angry and punched her in the back of the head, knocking her to the ground and telling her "you are going to be a Barack supporter," police said in a statement.
She said he continued to punch and kick her while threatening "to teach her a lesson for being a McCain supporter," police said. She said he then sat on her chest, pinned her hands down with his knees and scratched a backward letter "B" into her face using what she believed to be a dull knife.
The woman told police she didn't seek medical attention, but instead went to a friend's apartment nearby and called police about 45 minutes later.
Police have reinterviewed Todd at least once since her initial statement, Richard said.
In the subsequent discussions with investigators, according to the police statement, Todd said she was accosted as she approached the bank and fled her attacker, fell to the ground and the assailant began beating and fondling her.
Police Cmdr. Larry Ross, who is in charge of the police precinct where the attack was first reported, said Todd's story has continued to change.
"I guess she elaborated more when she went down to the bureau headquarters. She added other things to it that we didn't have at first, that she didn't tell the initial officer," Ross said.
soccermark23
10-25-2008, 11:06 AM
Woman admits making up McCain sticker attack, police say
(CNN) -- Bail was set at $50,000 Friday night for a GOP campaign worker who made up a story about being attacked by a man angered by a John McCain bumper sticker on her car.
Police say Ashley Todd admitted making up the report that she was attacked because of a McCain sticker.
Todd, who is being held at the Allegheny County Jail in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, did not enter a plea when she appeared in court Friday night. She did not post bail.
She is scheduled to appear in court again October 30, when she is expected to enter a plea.
If she posts bail, Todd must be evaluated at a behavioral clinic.
"This has wasted so much time. ... It's just a lot of wasted man hours," Assistant Police Chief Maurita Bryant said at a briefing.
Todd was a volunteer for a John McCain phone bank in Pittsburgh, the campaign said.
The woman told investigators a man approached her Wednesday night at an ATM in Pittsburgh's East End, put a blade to her neck and demanded money, said Pittsburgh police spokeswoman Diane Richard.
Police said they found "several inconsistencies" in Todd's statement and she was not seen in surveillance videos taken at the ATM. She was asked to take a polygraph test Friday morning, Richard said. The results were not made public.
Later, Todd came to the police station to help work on a composite sketch of the alleged attacker. When she arrived, Todd "told them she just wanted to tell the truth" -- that she was not robbed, and there was no attacker, Bryant said.
Todd originally told police a man "punched her in the back of the head, knocking her to the ground, and he continued to punch and kick her while threatening to teach her a lesson for being a McCain supporter," according to a police statement.
The woman also told police her attacker "called her a lot of names and stated that 'You are going to be a Barack supporter,' at which time she states he sat on her chest, pinning both her hands down with his knees, and scratched into her face a backward letter 'B' on the right side of her face using what she believed to be a very dull knife."
Bryant described Todd as "very cordial, polite, cooperating," and said the woman was surprised by all the media attention. Asked whether the false report was politically motivated, Bryant replied, "It's difficult to say."
"She is stating that she was in her vehicle driving around, and she came up with this idea," she said. "She said she has prior mental problems and doesn't know how the backward letter 'B' got on her face."
However, Todd was the only one in the vehicle, and "when she saw the 'B' she thought she must have been the one who did it," Bryant said.
"We're talking with the district attorney's office and conferring on just how we're going to handle it," she said. "It's been different stories through the night and this morning."
She said there was no indication that anyone else was involved.
Richard said the woman had described her alleged attacker as an African-American, 6 feet 4 inches tall with a medium build and short dark hair, wearing dark clothing and shiny shoes.
Before the revelation that the report was false, McCain spokeswoman Jill Hazelbaker said that McCain and running mate Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin "spoke to the victim and her family after learning about the incident."
The Obama campaign also had issued a statement wishing the woman a "speedy recovery."
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/24/mccain.sticker/index.html
I think this girl needs to have a major psych evaluation. Honestly, it all seemed a little far fetched if you ask me.
63Bravo
10-26-2008, 01:33 PM
I thought this was a great example of "counting the chickens before the eggs hatched." Perfect example of jumping to the wrong conclusion before all facts were in evidence.
Its escapades like this and Sarah Palins interviews that will ultimately sink John McCains election hopes.
PhoenixCadet
10-26-2008, 02:29 PM
I thought this was a great example of "counting the chickens before the eggs hatched." Perfect example of jumping to the wrong conclusion before all facts were in evidence.
Its escapades like this and Sarah Palins interviews that will ultimately sink John McCains election hopes.
So, you're essentially saying Obama supporters are perfect, and have never partaken in the act of "counting their chickens before they've hatched"? Only McCain supporters. Got it.
63Bravo
10-26-2008, 05:36 PM
So, you're essentially saying Obama supporters are perfect, and have never partaken in the act of "counting their chickens before they've hatched"? Only McCain supporters. Got it.
No, I essentially said nothing of the sort. What I did say is right there in my post. Please do not try to add anything to what I have typed, you do not have the ability to read my mind.
I did not mention Obama or his supporters at all, as they have no use in this discussion. The fact is, it wasnt an Obama supporter that did this, it was a McCain supporter, and in the end, all it did was hurt the one person she was supposedly trying to help.
03_SHOOTER
10-26-2008, 08:55 PM
Its escapades like this and Sarah Palins interviews that will ultimately sink John McCains election hopes.
And exactly what does Governor Palin have to do with this? For that matter, what does Sen. McCain have to do with this?
Using your pitiful excuse for 'logic', we can all throw up ACORN, and Black Theology at Sen. Obama every time one of them does something stupid, and that's not counting the fact that he has a nasty habit of quoting or paraphrasing Karl Marx at every turn.
63Bravo
10-27-2008, 09:16 PM
And exactly what does Governor Palin have to do with this? For that matter, what does Sen. McCain have to do with this?
Using your pitiful excuse for 'logic', we can all throw up ACORN, and Black Theology at Sen. Obama every time one of them does something stupid, and that's not counting the fact that he has a nasty habit of quoting or paraphrasing Karl Marx at every turn.
McCain and Palin have everything to do with it when the person perpetrating the crime is involved with campaigning for them. This isnt rocket science here..she was a campaigner for the McCain-Palin ticket, and filed false charges and allegations depicting a supporter for the Obama ticket.
If you dont think this hurt the McCain campaign at all, then I would say you have blinders on. Along the same lines, if you think a month after debuting her that McCain is overjoyed with Palin and what she is now bringing to his campaign, then I would suggest you take a look at the reports coming from with-in his own camp. She has help spur Republicans to cross over to vote for Obama: Colin Powell and Charles Fried spring to mind.
My logic is sound and backed up quite well by all the major news outlets and polls, McCain has taken a beating and a large part of it falls to his choice of an improperly vetted Vice Presidential nominee.
03_SHOOTER
10-27-2008, 10:27 PM
McCain and Palin have everything to do with it when the person perpetrating the crime is involved with campaigning for them. This isnt rocket science here..she was a campaigner for the McCain-Palin ticket, and filed false charges and allegations depicting a supporter for the Obama ticket.
That's as completely insane as trying to tie Obama to that loon James J. Yee, the former Captain and Muslim Chaplin who was drummed out of the Army for SPYING in Gitmo! How about we tie Democrat Superdelegate and Obama supporter to Kwame Kilpatrick who was just CONVICTED for perjury and obstruction of justice? How about we wrap Obama in with Aníbal Acevedo Vilá who was arrested by the FBI and charged with 19 counts of campaign finance corruption and conspiracy to violate United States federal election laws?
The only people who even seriously attempt to tie this to the McCain campaign are the same loony-toons liberals who are already trying to tie the skin-heads plan to kill all those people to McCain.
63Bravo
10-27-2008, 10:46 PM
That's as completely insane as trying to tie Obama to that loon James J. Yee, the former Captain and Muslim Chaplin who was drummed out of the Army for SPYING in Gitmo! How about we tie Democrat Superdelegate and Obama supporter to Kwame Kilpatrick who was just CONVICTED for perjury and obstruction of justice? How about we wrap Obama in with Aníbal Acevedo Vilá who was arrested by the FBI and charged with 19 counts of campaign finance corruption and conspiracy to violate United States federal election laws?
The only people who even seriously attempt to tie this to the McCain campaign are the same loony-toons liberals who are already trying to tie the skin-heads plan to kill all those people to McCain.
Whoah there...I did not say or imply that McCain or Plain were complicit in the hoax. I merely said it hurt their campaign because it put a negative light on it, and it did. People may draw the conclusion that someone in the office that this worker was from may have put her up to it, and then start working their way higher...this is America ya know. Stranger things have occurred.
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