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Delta Farce
10-03-2008, 02:34 PM
My personal favorite is the Barret BMG .50. I like it because of the supreme fire power it offers but I also like the design and the feel of the gun. :sniper:
Billyd
10-03-2008, 02:59 PM
Please tell us why. Otherwise this thread will be deleted.
PhilK
10-03-2008, 03:14 PM
As far as individual weapons, I like the M4. It is modular so I can put all the bells and whistles on it that I want (usually a M203 must be standard). Plus in CQB, I like the compact nature of the weapon, and if the need arises you can reach out to 300meters (ish).
For crew served weapons, I will go with the M240B. It is a bit heavy for a dismounted weapon, but with the right optics it can be used as a great long range point weapon. Of course the rate of fire is great for it's primary role as an area weapon.
Buffa1oso1di3r
10-03-2008, 03:18 PM
I love the AK-47. Although the sights are crap, it's highly reliable, and, it isn't too heavy.
TruBlu
10-03-2008, 06:23 PM
As far as what I've shot, the M16A4. Its extremely accurate and well balanced. Only downside to it for me is that it is chambered 5.56 instead of the 7.62, but that does increase accuracy and velocity.
Historically, the M1 Garand. With it being semi-automatic and a clip fed design, it has proved to be one of the most reliable weapons in US service. Also being a 30-O6 rifle (.30 on some modified weapons), it packs plenty of stopping power.
The rifle that I think would be my favorite if I shot it, the M468 via Barret. A rifle that has the stopping power of an AK-47 (or any other 7.62 really), the accuracy of an M16, and the compact design of the M4, chambered at the brand new (at least I think it is...) 6.8. That would be a really fun gun to get hands on.
Drill for life
10-03-2008, 06:33 PM
My personal favorite is the Barret BMG .50 :sniper:
OMG Me Too!!!. I alway's have liked The Reising to, a nice Oiled Reising is perfec, a nice rate of fire. Great.
Buffa1oso1di3r
10-03-2008, 07:18 PM
The Barett M-107 is HEAVY. I would only fire that thing from the prone position with plenty of sandbags. Favorite Designated Marksman rifle would have to be the SVD, simply because... it's awesome. However, I do love the M-16A2 service rifle (I haven't fired the A4 variant), as there is virtually no kick, so the bullet stays on target.
El Supremo
10-03-2008, 10:36 PM
The Green Beret is my favorite weapon:beret: ; just playing. Seriously though i've always been a fan of the .45 pistol. It has proved to be an effective side arm in engagments, it was also a favorite of my Grandfather's, so its possible i inherited genetic favoritism from him. I own an Armed Forces Commerative signed by John Wayne himself, on the .45 pistol, that i inherited from my Grandfather RIP. It gives a more classic feel, without seeming "old", and performs better under stress unlike the modern USP pistol.
Billyd
10-03-2008, 10:45 PM
Last warning. Opinions are OK, but just spouting off as to a favorite without telling us why does not contribute to a discussion. If you like particular weapon, tells us why you like it. If you dislike a weapon tell us why. I am sure you all have reasons why you like or dislike a particular weapon. That makes for interesting discussion.
FeelinFroggy
10-03-2008, 11:04 PM
In close-quarters I prefer the MP5 due to the fact it's manueverable yet still packs a punch. The recoil is nice and gentle which leads to increased accuracy. I also like the M4 Super 90, it's modular which allows you to modify your weapon quickly as the environment changes.
AirForceAlways
10-04-2008, 12:46 AM
I'm partial to a 1911 tpye .45 as a sidearm. I've had lots of professional training with the weapon system, and I've gotten very good at it. Gives me some confidence when I wear one at my side.
As for long rifles, I'd have to say my favorite weapon system would have to be a SOCOM M-14 rifle. Though you can't have full auto versions anymore, it's still a very open system. If you can grab a good rifle with picatinny rails, you can stick any number of things on it, turning it from a typical assault rifle to a high accuracy scoped rifle.
I agree with FeelinFroggy about the MP5. I think it's an absolutely wonderful SMG that has proven itself time and again with many armed forces over quite a good amount of time. As he said, the recoil is very controllable at full auto, especially when used in 2 or 3 shot bursts. Very accurate weapon when used properly.
C/ZOOMIE
10-04-2008, 10:21 AM
Favorite firearm I've shot (keep in mind that's literally about 200 different firearms I've shot): Beretta 92f, feels real nice in my hand, shoots fairly accuratly.
Favorite Pistol I own: Taurus 1911, its MSRP (around $550) is an excellent price for a 1911 and the gun performs better than any Kimber or high end 1911 I've ever shot.
Favorite rifle I own: K-98 Mauser, I bought online (parents ordered, I payed) around my 13th B-Day for about $200. I LOVE IT! Not only are the sights very unique, the rifle is unbelievably accurate!.....
MP_Girl
10-05-2008, 05:05 PM
Well, I have a long list of likes and dislikes, so brace yourselves, because I do research weapons and study them for fun, I'll only how ever list a few of my favorites, this way others can also post.
Colt M16A4 MWS: This weapon was one of the first one's that I have had the pleasure to use and practice with. I like the removable carrying handle feature, it also is much more adaptable then the standard M-16, and can be used in various mounting positions. It also has specialized scopes, flashlights and target designators, hence the "Modular Weapon System" designation.
Smith & Wesson SW Model 67: This weapon is also a favorite of mine, although it was never used by myself. You will more than likely see this on some one who works in either counter intelligence or Criminal Investigation Division. I like it because it is discreet, small, and apparently can be accurately aimed on a first shot, according to my cousin, who is an MP, and works with buddies in counter intelligence.
M249 Light Machine Gun (SAW): This has been an all time favorite weapon of mine, although I never got to use it except for in training (A fake one was used with a laser) I like it because it is light weight, and can shoot many rounds at one time. It is gas operated and is effective for use in large fire. It has been used over in Iraq.
In the areas of Artillery, I also like the Howitzers, although personally, I can not say I have used one, but have seen many operated. I like it because well, I get to shoot. anything that I can shoot with is fun :-P My Favorite is the m77, which replaced the M198.
Startingover
10-05-2008, 05:51 PM
Typically, because I like a short, burst fire and accurate shot, I would perfer over anything automatic -
Long range:
M107/M82 Barrett Sniper rifle. Large, semi-automatic .50 cal. clip. Nice rate of fire, distance, OWNAGE!!! Thing can shoot over 2.5 miles and still hit the target with enough force to kill.
Short Range/ Primary weapon:
P-90, Small 28mm rounds that are teflon coated and armor pierce capable rounds. Short 3 round burst, single, and Full auto fire are capable. Accurate up to 500m and deadly within 200m. Awesome for quick storm and defensive capabilites but not good in medium range firefight.
Close range/ Sidearm:
M9/M1911 or Desert Eagle.
M9/M1911 are more reliable and have a better clip, but the Desert eagle is more of a Psych weapon. Plus it delivers a punch, not only to the target but to the weilder.
Alt. Rifle for Long range:
30-O6 - Just an awesome weapon. Decent fire rate and capable of firing up to a 40 clip standard. AP rounds and has a terminal range of 2.2 miles.
TruBlu
10-05-2008, 06:29 PM
Typically, because I like a short, burst fire and accurate shot, I would perfer over anything automatic -
Long range:
M107/M82 Barrett Sniper rifle. Large, semi-automatic .50 cal. clip. Nice rate of fire, distance, OWNAGE!!! Thing can shoot over 2.5 miles and still hit the target with enough force to kill.
Short Range/ Primary weapon:
P-90, Small 28mm rounds that are teflon coated and armor pierce capable rounds. Short 3 round burst, single, and Full auto fire are capable. Accurate up to 500m and deadly within 200m. Awesome for quick storm and defensive capabilites but not good in medium range firefight.
Close range/ Sidearm:
M9/M1911 or Desert Eagle.
M9/M1911 are more reliable and have a better clip, but the Desert eagle is more of a Psych weapon. Plus it delivers a punch, not only to the target but to the weilder.
Alt. Rifle for Long range:
30-O6 - Just an awesome weapon. Decent fire rate and capable of firing up to a 40 clip standard. AP rounds and has a terminal range of 2.2 miles.
When you say 30-O6, what do you mean? It is to my understanding (and clarify me if I'm wrong please) that 30-O6 is a cartridge/ammunition type, not an actually firearm. There are many weapons that accept or are modeled for the 30-O6, including the M1 Garand, Springfield 1903, and some Remington 700s. I'm sure there are many many more, but those are just three to prove a point, that there are many 30-O6 rifles. So when you say "decent fire rate and capable of firing up to a 40 clip standard" what do you mean?
Startingover
10-05-2008, 07:01 PM
When you say 30-O6, what do you mean? It is to my understanding (and clarify me if I'm wrong please) that 30-O6 is a cartridge/ammunition type, not an actually firearm. There are many weapons that accept or are modeled for the 30-O6, including the M1 Garand, Springfield 1903, and some Remington 700s. I'm sure there are many many more, but those are just three to prove a point, that there are many 30-O6 rifles. So when you say "decent fire rate and capable of firing up to a 40 clip standard" what do you mean?
Well putting it that way it was always described as its own weapon, not ammunition. I was oblivious to the term, but I would say the M1, because they do have a 4 round clip capability if not single loaded. Srry, my confusion.
TruBlu
10-05-2008, 07:06 PM
Well putting it that way it was always described as its own weapon, not ammunition. I was oblivious to the term, but I would say the M1, because they do have a 4 round clip capability if not single loaded. Srry, my confusion.
Its all good man. But just a clarification, the M1 Garand had an 8 round clip standard. But at least you said clip instead of magazine, its always good to know the difference and when to use which term.
Drill for life
10-05-2008, 07:08 PM
My favorite handgun is a Smith and Wesson .500. It is so big and it has so much power, yet it has less recoil than a .57 magnum.
C/ZOOMIE
10-06-2008, 11:07 AM
Well putting it that way it was always described as its own weapon, not ammunition. I was oblivious to the term, but I would say the M1, because they do have a 4 round clip capability if not single loaded. Srry, my confusion.
As said the M1 Garand has an 8 Round Magazine, but also, in order to load the M1 you MUST use the M1 designated clip.....
pingjocky
10-06-2008, 02:30 PM
a .57 magnum
A What??
And that's why I refuse to participate in this conversation. A bunch of kids tossing around weapon designators willy-nillly, with no regards as to knowing how to actually handle the weapon (philk and feelinfroggy excepted).
No, shooting electronic versions of said weapons on Call of Duty 4 does not make you an expert on the pros and cons of each weapon system.
Shooting daddy's rifle one weekend does not qualify you to say that one is your favorite...."only one" = "favorite"? I think not.
End Rant.
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Piingjocky
TruBlu
10-06-2008, 04:37 PM
A What??
And that's why I refuse to participate in this conversation. A bunch of kids tossing around weapon designators willy-nillly, with no regards as to knowing how to actually handle the weapon (philk and feelinfroggy excepted).
No, shooting electronic versions of said weapons on Call of Duty 4 does not make you an expert on the pros and cons of each weapon system.
Shooting daddy's rifle one weekend does not qualify you to say that one is your favorite...."only one" = "favorite"? I think not.
End Rant.
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Piingjocky
Wait a second now. All due respect, but what about the people who are actually contributing to these conversations in ways that are simply discussions or stories of personal use? I for one do not claim to be any type of weapons expert or anything close, but I do enjoy studying and learning about weapons systems and the industry. If you look back to at least my posts (and I'm sure I'm not the only one), you can see that I say things like "Of what I've shot," and "What I would like to shoot." If someone says things like "Oh I like the M82 Barret because its 'the biggest baddest weapon on earth," they are not contributing. On the other hand, when cadets are actively speaking about the weapons, calibers, etc., and are actually having an intelligent discussion (even if it is just clarification a lot of the time), then where is the problem?
I see this thread as a way for people to share experiences (or lack there of) and maybe learn a thing or two about firearms. I don't think that a demeaning tone that you took in your response to the activities on this thread was entirely necessary. Now this in honestly in all due respect and not an individual attack. I respect the fact that you don't think that kids should be talking like they know everything, and I agree with you. But putting everyone in the same boat like that and shooting it all down isn't the correct approach.
pingjocky
10-06-2008, 04:52 PM
But putting everyone in the same boat like that and shooting it all down isn't the correct approach.
I didn't put everyone in the same boat...I excepted PhilK and Feelinfroggy, guys who actually have some "trigger-time." Guys who can speak intelligently about weapons systems they have actually put hands-on, and are competent in their use. Guys who can relate to the pros and cons of each weapon system and discuss the limitations and capabilities of each.
When you say 30-O6, what do you mean? It is to my understanding (and clarify me if I'm wrong please) that 30-O6 is a cartridge/ammunition type, not an actually firearm.
I have to give you props, this was a very intelligent observation. Good on you, but you missed this one:
a nice Oiled Reising is perfec,
The Marines who actually used them hated them! They threw them away so they could draw decent arms (M-1 Carbines and Thompsons) from supply. The inner workings of the Reising were too complicated and they rusted very easily in the jungle environment, and became useless quickly.
You also missed:
i've always been a fan of the 45. pistol.
Is he talking about a .45 ACP handgun? Which one? I can list about 50 separate firearms (including SMG's) chambered for .45 ACP...or is talking about .45 Long Colt...maybe .45 GAP?? Who knows??
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Pingjocky
pingjocky
10-06-2008, 05:03 PM
...and that's why I chose to stay out of this conversation until I couldn't hold back anymore after seeing a ".57 magnum."
Now I'll gracefully bow-out, and return the kiddie pool to the kiddies.
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Pingjocky
TruBlu
10-06-2008, 05:13 PM
I didn't put everyone in the same boat...I excepted PhilK and Feelinfroggy, guys who actually have some "trigger-time." Guys who can speak intelligently about weapons systems they have actually put hands-on, and are competent in their use. Guys who can relate to the pros and cons of each weapon system and discuss the limitations and capabilities of each.
I have to give you props, this was a very intelligent observation. Good on you, but you missed this one:
The Marines who actually used them hated them! They threw them away so they could draw decent arms (M-1 Carbines and Thompsons) from supply. The inner workings of the Reising were too complicated and they rusted very easily in the jungle environment, and became useless quickly.
You also missed:
Is he talking about a .45 ACP handgun? Which one? I can list about 50 separate firearms (including SMG's) chambered for .45 ACP...or is talking about .45 Long Colt...maybe .45 GAP?? Who knows??
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Pingjocky
I do admit, I didn't correct anyone and everyone, and maybe I should have if I was correcting one person. I don't know much about the Reising, that's why I didn't comment on that, and I didn't really think about the .45 comment to be honest. I simply commented on what I knew was to be true, but next time I start correcting or suggesting, I'll be sure to address any misconception.
pingjocky
10-06-2008, 05:27 PM
I do admit, I didn't correct anyone and everyone, and maybe I should have if I was correcting one person.
You have missed my point. I was not "pinging" on you specifically for not correcting anyone. If that's what you took away from my post, then so be it.
My intention was to point out the fact that all persons, no matter their age, need to discuss things that they are familiar with. I can guarantee you that there is no one here qualified to discuss submarine tactics with me...and how many discussions do you see on this board about submarine tactics? None. There are maybe about a dozen guys (just a best guess...there's probably a few more than that....) on this board qualified to discuss small arms, and none of them have JROTC in their pseudo dog-tags.
I'm not qualified to talk about AFJROTC....do you see me jumping in that conversation? Nope (at least I don't think I have...yet!!).
"Talk about stuff that you know something about" is my whole point.
NOW can I get out of this thread??
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Pingjocky
SlightlyCatholic
10-06-2008, 06:31 PM
I think a lot of ambiguity for cadets arises when they use secondary sources instead of primary sources to gain information. A secondary source= a friend, an instructor, a fellow cadet, etc. A primary source = official document, manual, training guide, official weapon specifications, etc. Things would be much simpler if everyone just cited directly from the horse's mouth.
C/ZOOMIE
10-06-2008, 09:34 PM
A What??
And that's why I refuse to participate in this conversation. A bunch of kids tossing around weapon designators willy-nillly, with no regards as to knowing how to actually handle the weapon (philk and feelinfroggy excepted).
No, shooting electronic versions of said weapons on Call of Duty 4 does not make you an expert on the pros and cons of each weapon system.
Shooting daddy's rifle one weekend does not qualify you to say that one is your favorite...."only one" = "favorite"? I think not.
End Rant.
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Piingjocky
Hey now, I know what I'm talking about. Come to my place and have a 2 hour conversation with me about anything from Military history to Firearms and you'll see what I'm talking about............(and if you're nice I'll let you shoot my K-98 Mauser in 8mm (7.92) or my 1891/30 Mosin Nagant in 7.62x54r or my my Sig P225 in 9mm or my Taurus 1911 in .45 ACP or.....well, I think you get the point).......
pingjocky
10-07-2008, 05:42 AM
Enlisting in the U.S.A.F. in 2010 (17th B-Day).
Get some time on the pond, youngster. Getting to shoot a few of daddy's guns does not make you an expert....as said in an earlier post...if you'd taken the time to read them all before blowing your spout.
WHY can't I get out of this thread??
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Pingjocky
Woody
10-07-2008, 11:38 AM
M240B or gpmg to us Brits or FN MAG to rest of the world .Pain to carry and clean .Very good to shoot .
Happy with Sa 80 a2 it works just fine and very accurate original version
made orginal m16 look reliable fortunatly we didnt have war to fight with it
at the same time as trying to sort it out .
Minimi ok but if you going to cart a machine gun around might as well go for one in 7.62mm .
C/ZOOMIE
10-07-2008, 11:54 AM
Get some time on the pond, youngster. Getting to shoot a few of daddy's guns does not make you an expert....as said in an earlier post...if you'd taken the time to read them all before blowing your spout.
WHY can't I get out of this thread??
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Pingjocky
Sir, don't think that because I'm a minor I've only shot "a few of daddys guns" (my dad learns more about firearms from ME everyday than he does anywhere else). I have from the age of 6 literally operated and shot over 200 different firearms (open houses, renting guns at ranges, ECT). Ranging from muzzle loading rifles to bolt action rifles to automatic rifles to most modern firearm brands. Those are just a few categories. From age 6 to 13 my ENTIRE life had revolved around shooting/learing about firearms. I OWN at least as many firearms as my father (pm me if you want the list). Hell, I've shot at least 12 different AR-15 type rifles and I don't even LIKE the AR-15. Pm, call, or chat with me for just an HOUR and talk about firearms/Military history and THEN you can judge me. :)
BTW, I forgot to mention: I LOVE Military Surplus Rifles. Anything from 1903 Springfields to M1 Garands to K-98 Mausers to 1891/30 Mosin Nagants and I have shot it, learned about it, and can tell you anything you want to know about it. :)
WHY can't I get out of this thread??
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Pingjocky
Probably an inherent inability to just stand-by and watch a train-wreck, my friend.
As for C/ZOOMIE;
I have from the age of 6 literally operated and shot over 200 different firearms (open houses, renting guns at ranges, ECT). Ranging from muzzle loading rifles to bolt action rifles to automatic rifles to most modern firearm brands.
I do not believe Pingjocky is trying to belittle your "experience". In fact, I know he isn't.
The point that I see him trying to make is that just because someone has used some of these, does not make them a small-arms expert.
Firing a weapon on a weeknight or weekend at a range is a lot different than operating in military/LEO conditions. Some of these include firing on the move, instinctive shooting, and what we (Canadian Army) call Gunfighter skills (in itself a 3 week long instinctive shooting course, including long-arm to pistol transitioning).
For myself, unless I know the person telling me about the weapon has trained extensively, or has first-hand experience on the weapon in it's primary role, in training or on the big 'ol two-way range, I take their opinion with a big grain of salt.
CAPSmith
10-07-2008, 03:24 PM
Not to add fuel to the fire, but someone doesn't need to be a professional movie critic to tell you whether or not they enjoy a movie, or tell you which one is their favorite.
The intent of the thread here was for people to say which firearm is their favorite and why. Someone may be a target shooter, which doesn't involve close quarters combat abilities, etc but still have obvious preference as to what they like to shoot.
Some people may have a favorite weapon in their arsenal simply because of sentimental value - a grandfather's old hunting rifle - it may not be the best weapon, but still someones favorite.
I used to have this old BB gun my father gave me, for a long time it was my favorite thing in the whole world. The sights were crooked and I couldn't hit a damn thing with it. It really was a piece of crap, but still my favorite.
A few years later a friend of mine bought a Smith and Wesson .38 Revolver. I shot probably 100 rounds through that thing and couldn't stand it from the first one. It was uncomfortable to hold, I didn't like the balance and I didn't like the way the trigger felt. By far, not my favorite.
I've also fired several other handguns, shotguns and rifles throughout the years.
Recently, I've been thinking about buying a handgun. My father-in-law has a Glock 39 .45 GAP. I've fired a couple hundred rounds through it. I like the weight and balance of it, I like the way the trigger squeezes, I like the size and recoil. I am considering buying this. So far it is my favorite handgun.
I'm not a small arms expert by any means and definitely wouldn't be able to rate combat effectiveness or stopping power the same way as someone who has used them in those situations, but I still know what I like to shoot from the limited selection of firearms I have.
My favorite airplane by the way is the A-10, and I've never flown one.
pingjocky
10-07-2008, 04:05 PM
For myself, unless I know the person telling me about the weapon has trained extensively, or has first-hand experience on the weapon in it's primary role, in training or on the big 'ol two-way range, I take their opinion with a big grain of salt.
Spot on. And I was swallowing a $hit-ton of salt until I saw the ".57 magnum" make it's appearance, and I couldn't hold back any longer.
I am not critisizing anyone for not being a weapons expert. I am angry at people being a dumba$$.
A ".57 magnum"? C'mon. "I like a 45. pistol!" Jeez.
I already gave props to the guy who caught the 30-06 screw-up.
I've also fired several other handguns, shotguns and rifles throughout the years. (Emphasis mine) EXACTLY, throughout the years...and there's no 15 year old kid on the planet who has that experience...well, maybe some third-world kids who have to pick up a rifle to survive..but I doubt they're on this forum.
A few years later a friend of mine bought a Smith and Wesson .38 Revolver. I shot probably 100 rounds through that thing and couldn't stand it from the first one. It was uncomfortable to hold, I didn't like the balance and I didn't like the way the trigger felt. By far, not my favorite.
......
Recently, I've been thinking about buying a handgun. My father-in-law has a Glock 39 .45 GAP. I've fired a couple hundred rounds through it. I like the weight and balance of it, I like the way the trigger squeezes, I like the size and recoil. I am considering buying this. So far it is my favorite handgun.
Those are valid range reports. That's exactly what this entire thread should have been filled with. Instead, we got regaled with stories of wanna-be's and weapons they've never seen (pictures do not count).
I'M STILL IN this friggen thread.....
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Pingjocky
p.s. Des knows this...I had to re-write this post before hitting "submit." The first draft wasn't this nice. Maybe I've been in submarines too long. My tolerance level for BS has gone waaaaay down....I think my BS Meter might be broken.
pingjocky
10-07-2008, 04:12 PM
someone doesn't need to be a professional movie critic to tell you whether or not they enjoy a movie, or tell you which one is their favorite
Someone doesn't need to be an expert on amphibious assaults to discuss them, or tell you which one is their favorite....until someone who knows amphibious assaults comes along and makes them look like a dumba$$.
Back to what I said several posts ago....people need to talk about what they know, and leave the rest to folks who do know what they're talking about.
I don't know jack-all about AFJROTC...therefore, I don't talk about it!! If people would learn that one lesson, I COULD GET OUT OF THIS THREAD!!!
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pingjocky
Like Ping said, valid reasons and experiences to me are welcome.
You don't have to be an expert, but validate your opinion with reasons (preferably back up with hands-on experience and trigger-time).
Maybe I went too far with the military experience. Of course, this is a military-inspired website, so I leaned that way.
For instance, CAPSmith, I appreciate why you like the Glock 39. But what would you say when asked about some problems in the past that Glock has had with pistols barreled in the .45 ACP? And do you prefer double action to single action? And what kind of shooting did you do? Standing range, IPSC, etc. Have you tried the same with different DA/SA pistols?
There are 4 people in this world that I go to when it comes to weapons questions.
One is a current Special Operator. The Second is an Air Force avionics engineer who happens to be one of the top rated IPSC shooters in the country, who also happens to instruct tactical shooting courses. The third is a former Special Operator/armourer, who runs his own gunsmithing business now, and also happens to teach tactical shooting courses. The last is a former paratrooper and SF Armourer, who collects, smiths his own weapons, and then uses them in Iraq as a Private Contractor.
When those guys tell me that a particular weapon is their favourite, they also back up why, and offer a comparison on different weapons they've also used in that role.
I'm not expecting quite the same level here, but at least give some reasons.
"A .45 because it's bad*ss" doesn't really give me any reason to respect an opinion.
mtnsldr
10-07-2008, 04:58 PM
I left this thing alone, unfortunately then I forgot about it.
Here is the reason I didn't post: I'm an Infantryman. I know a lot about the M16A2/M4. I don't know a lot about anything else (I know enough about the AK series rifles to disassemble them). I know about the M9, because I've carried it for two years on deployment. I don't know much about the H&K P2000 I OWN, because I've only fired it twice at the range.
I think the point is that if you have real experience with a weapon, great. Post up your experience similarly to how CAPSmith did, in a constructive way that would give some decent information on your experience to other people.
Unfortunately it seems a trend in the Cadet Forums is to automatically start yammering about whats "cool" regardless of whether or not you've even touched it. I can't imagine that the comment about the M82 is worthwhile, as I'm sure nobody on here has enough trigger time with it to make an informed post.
Just think before you post. Try to ensure that your post has some benefit to the listening audience. And if you don't know what your talking about, shut the hell up.
*I wrote this as Des is posting, and he's a lot more articulate than I am.*
*I wrote this as Des is posting, and he's a lot more articulate than I am.*
HA! Thanks for that ego-boost, but really, I've just been writing a lot of my people's Personnel Development Reviews in the last little while. (and then rewritten, and rewritten some more)
pingjocky
10-07-2008, 05:15 PM
And if you don't know what your talking about, shut the hell up.
Bingo.....and I'm finally out of this thread....
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pingjocky
C/ZOOMIE
10-07-2008, 07:58 PM
So who else here is into Military surplus rifles besides me?
navytrooper
11-02-2008, 07:34 PM
Well I've fired only so many weapons, being pretty young, but my favorite out of the ones I've actually shot would have to be the (civilian, obviously) .223 caliber AR-15. I dunno, I just feel an attraction to it. Shoots smooth as anything, and I nicked the bottom-left corner of the "bulls-eye X" at 50 yards.
Not sure if that's good or not, but...I guess the main reason I like it is its ability to shoot straight. Of course, it could just be a comparison to the next-most-accurate gun I fired, which was an SKS. Don't even get me started on the SKS. :mad:
YES I ACTUALLY FIRED THEM ON THE RANGE...
:D
C/ZOOMIE
11-02-2008, 08:19 PM
I have a Chinese SKS. I shoots pretty damn well. Not to mention I LOVE the fact that its chambered for 7.62x39.
grunt0311
11-03-2008, 12:41 AM
As Marine Infantry I've only delt with 'x' number of weapons, but lets see...
Favorite Shoulder Fired Rifle: SAW? (Its just fun to fire from the standing) No, my favorite for my current job is my M4. It is compact, light, with rail systems for mounting ACOGs/EOTEK, lights, PEQ-2 etc. For shooting on the rifle qual range, I shot expert, so there are no complaints on accuracy out to 500 yds.
Favorite Crew Served (Vehicle Mounted): This one has to go to the MK-19. This baby fires, and destroys! The only down side (that I have seen so far) is firing "free-gun" accuracy drops considerably.
Favorite CSW (Dismounted): well there is really only one Crew Serve you carry dismounted and thats the 240B/G (we have used both). While I haven't been able to compare the two types to each other, they are reliable none the less.
Favorite Sidearm (by default): M9 at least for the military thats all they let me fire. however, when state law allows me (5 more months) I will be purchasing a Glock .40 cal (don't recall the model number) but I have fired it on several occasions and it has a smooth recoil, hi mag capacity and relatively compact.
There is my $0.02.
Murray B
12-18-2008, 03:37 AM
My favorite is the German MP44. It was fully automatic machine pistol firing a large pistol cartridge about the same size as the .45 Long Colt (used in the the U.S. SAA) but necked to 7.92mm. The machine pistol's twelve pound weight allowed for accurate full automatic fire like an SMG but at longer ranges due to the large pistol cartridge. It is kind of like an extended range Thompson. So far, I have not found anything else that resembles the MP44. It may be unique.
Woody
12-18-2008, 03:57 AM
It was the first assault rifle .So unique in its time .Now adays awful lot of assault rifles out there .You may even be able to buy something similar in your country for a while longer:devil:.
JohnP
12-18-2008, 04:11 PM
My favorite is the German MP44. It was fully automatic machine pistol firing a large pistol cartridge about the same size as the .45 Long Colt (used in the the U.S. SAA) but necked to 7.92mm. The machine pistol's twelve pound weight allowed for accurate full automatic fire like an SMG but at longer ranges due to the large pistol cartridge. It is kind of like an extended range Thompson. So far, I have not found anything else that resembles the MP44. It may be unique.
I have several:
My baby is the Thompson also. There's nothing like the sound of that chopper tearing down a wall.
My next was a modified M-16 GAU5. I carried it as the pointman for the team. The barrell was 12 inches long and had standard flash suppressor. It was loud, it was quick, (30 rd mag in 3 secs.) and it tore up a jungle.
The last military toy I played with was the MP5K-PDW.
I like CQC.
Murray B
12-18-2008, 04:13 PM
It was the first assault rifle .So unique in its time .Now adays awful lot of assault rifles out there .You may even be able to buy something similar in your country for a while longer:devil:.
That Ruger semi in .44 mag is somewhat similar in that it too uses a large pistol cartridge but its range is limited by the low B.C. of the short and fat bullet. Since the rifle is six pounds instead of twelve I expect it would also be uncontrollable full automatic. The closest thing I have found to an MP44 is the old U.S. M2 Carbine of Korean war vintage.
Even if I found an M2 or MP44 today I could not buy it because fully automatic weaponse were banned here after 1930. Today, only the military and organized criminals have them.
Out of the weapons I have fired....I fell in love with the AK-47. When I went to Poland, my friends uncle had one and he literally buried it, dug the thing up and had me shoot 50 meter targets. That was a whole lotta fun.
-Bozz-
Murray B
12-21-2008, 12:14 AM
I have several: My baby is the Thompson also. There's nothing like the sound of that chopper tearing down a wall.
From what I have gleaned from veterans, the Thompson is what I call a workswell. That is something that works better in practice then it should in theory. There were many SMGs made in the 20th century but the Thompson really stands out. It looks expensive (lots of machined parts) though, and I expect that explains its relative rarity.
What else do you like about the Thompson, other than the sound?
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