Scientists Ponder Zombie Invasion [Archive]

PhoenixCadet

08-26-2009, 02:39 AM

...oh boy! Target practice!

If zombies actually existed, an attack by them would lead to the collapse of civilisation unless dealt with quickly and aggressively.

That is the conclusion of a mathematical exercise carried out by researchers in Canada.

More on the story here (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8206280.stm).

I know that's impossible, but it's still fun to think about. :p

Then, there's these guys (http://www.zombiesurvivalwiki.com/) who take it to a whole new level. :D

-PC

DoubleHelix

08-26-2009, 09:25 AM

:D Zombies.

I ain't scared of no stinkin' zombies. Well, maybe not the stinky ones, some of those fast ones are a little scary. Ah, but that's an interesting argument in the zombie world. Zombies shouldn't be fast, they shuffle around and all that due to rigor mortis. I figure though, just block off some stairs, get some ammo and camp it out. I like the counter-attack suggestion, no quarter for the evil undead.

Everybody should have to spend at least 5 minutes examining zombie lore, specifically how to survive. Not that it'd be hard. Not that it'll ever really happen (I've still got an emergency kit for this situation ready). But in case it does, I don't want to wind up with a full PM box saying

"Helix, I need you to save me! How do I get rid of these things!?"

I like this topic. :devil: Thank you Phoenix :D

CAPSmith

08-26-2009, 09:42 AM

:D Zombies.
Zombies shouldn't be fast, they shuffle around and all that due to rigor mortis.

Rigor doesn't set in until about 3 hours after someone dies. Then, it goes away after about 72 hours...FYI. Hope that doesn't change your plans...

ArmyJrotc Raider

08-26-2009, 12:02 PM

I think I saw a a "How to Survive a Zombie Attack" book at Barnes and Noble before maybe we should buy that book.

Drill for life

08-26-2009, 12:49 PM

I think I saw a a "How to Survive a Zombie Attack" book at Barnes and Noble before maybe we should buy that book.

We should, or we could just throw Trublu at them and let them eat him:D. Just joking TB.

ArmyJrotc Raider

08-26-2009, 12:51 PM

We should, or we could just throw Trublu at them and let them eat him:D. Just joking TB.

Or get Ben to try and eat one of them to see how they taste :D, just kidding.

DoubleHelix

08-26-2009, 01:05 PM

Rigor doesn't set in until about 3 hours after someone dies. Then, it goes away after about 72 hours...FYI. Hope that doesn't change your plans...

I was aware of the fact that it is time related, just wasn't versed on the specific amounts of time.

If your willing to take a serious look at the topic, even if it is BS, there's really a lot for discussion.

For one, what exactly is the cause of re-animation. Whatever it is that is going to jump start a body, and degrade the mental capabilities to nothing more then a pure survival instinct of feeding, is likely going to mess with your biological functioning. The Mortis could possibly be affected.

If not, then kids, the safest time to roll through an area would be about a hour after a zombie attack, you'd be nice and safe.

And no Sir, that does not change my plans. The 350 page Helix-Zombie Escape Brief was assembled and filed years ago, ready for the contingency at any moment. I will not be caught with my pants down when they come shuffling through my apartment complex.

PhoenixCadet

08-26-2009, 03:11 PM

The 350 page Helix-Zombie Escape Brief was assembled and filed years ago...

350 pages?! Is it classified? I'd love to see it. :p

In regard to seriousness of the topic, not only could you look at it from a biological standpoint, but also from a defensive standpoint (weapons, vehicles, and fortifications we'd use). A good majority of the things that we would do to defend ourselves against zombies could be used just as easily against a living, attacking army, as well.

-PC

devin0116

08-26-2009, 03:18 PM

I think I saw a a "How to Survive a Zombie Attack" book at Barnes and Noble before maybe we should buy that book.

I believe you are reffering to " Zombie Survival Guide" written by Max Brooks

PhoenixCadet

08-26-2009, 03:22 PM

I'd also invest in "World War Z", also by Max Brooks. Awesome book. Sadly, my neck of the woods gets over-run by zombies...

"In a quiet suburb in northern San Diego county..."

:dontgetit:

-PC

DoubleHelix

08-26-2009, 04:09 PM

350 pages?! Is it classified? I'd love to see it. :p

In regard to seriousness of the topic, not only could you look at it from a biological standpoint, but also from a defensive standpoint (weapons, vehicles, and fortifications we'd use). A good majority of the things that we would do to defend ourselves against zombies could be used just as easily against a living, attacking army, as well.

-PC

Not classified, just not published. A fantastic escape through the desert and to safety :D . Don't worry about SD getting over ran, just come back to the Valley and I can write you into the plan.

There's a lot to the topic, it's simply masked by the comedic effect provided by the creature. Not just the eye candy, but things about how society would handle such a devastating problem.

If 1/4 of everyone of your acquaintances is getting killed by this, it's going to effect the psych. Furthermore, if your watching these people get back up, only to be put down once more, I'm sure it gets traumatic.

The human wave comes to mind for me. It's a common theme in zombie literature/cinema. The Chinese used the wave tactic several times in Korea if I'm right. I'm sure that's about as gruesome as sights come.

Like most things, you dig a little deeper under the skin, you find there's a lot more there then skin.

ArmyJrotc Raider

08-26-2009, 07:44 PM

I believe you are reffering to " Zombie Survival Guide" written by Max Brooks

That's the one, I was thinking the name wasn't as long as I said it was.

armysc_25b

08-26-2009, 08:09 PM

PhoenixCadet

08-27-2009, 12:53 PM

I've always had some serious doubts about the sanity of some of the members of this forum. I can rest easy tonight (which for me is the middle of the day since I'm working nights right now) knowing that my doubts have been confirmed, and in fact, there is little to no sanity in this forum. :p

The fact that it took you that long to come to that conclusion makes me worry how you can count yourself among us, then call us out so easily. I Think you're just as insane as the rest of us, you just haven't fully realized it yet. Admitting there's a problem is the first step to recovery... (Then again, this is fun... Who'd want to recover?!)

:devil:

-PC

PhoenixCadet

08-27-2009, 05:17 PM

I found my weapon of choice...

http://n1.cdn.spikedhumor.com/1/675000/169505_rocket_propelled_chainsaw_1.jpg

armysc_25b

08-27-2009, 05:57 PM

The fact that it took you that long to come to that conclusion makes me worry how you can count yourself among us, then call us out so easily. I Think you're just as insane as the rest of us, you just haven't fully realized it yet. Admitting there's a problem is the first step to recovery... (Then again, this is fun... Who'd want to recover?!)

:devil:

-PC

Ya, see, I've had it figured out for a while, just needed supporting evidence. As far as my sanity goes, I'm just fine; it's the rest of the world that's screwed up!

PhoenixCadet

08-27-2009, 06:01 PM

As far as my sanity goes, I'm just fine; it's the rest of the world that's screwed up!

Of course you'd say that.... Like I said: admitting you've got a problem is the first step to recovery.

I'lll help you start off.

"Hi, my name is armysc_25b, and I have a problem..."

:p

C/ZOOMIE

08-27-2009, 06:11 PM

Well i've got all the guns and ammo I need. All I can say is Canada, Britain, and most liberals are F***ed! :D

Woody

08-28-2009, 04:46 PM

Guns run out of ammo ?How many castles do you have to run to .:D

Billyd

08-31-2009, 08:39 PM

http://www.fvza.org/

Just found this info. Enjoy!

DoubleHelix

08-31-2009, 09:42 PM

http://www.fvza.org/

Just found this info. Enjoy!

Vampires are a load of crap, cooked up to sell books to teenage girls. I dare any father on this board to deny that.

Come on Billy, this is serious now... :D

navytrooper

08-31-2009, 11:37 PM

That would be a good nickname for a drill team with arms..."The Zombie Hunting Platoon."

Zach

09-01-2009, 04:27 PM

PhoenixCadet

09-01-2009, 09:05 PM

Zombies... That is an interesting topic. The real question should be do the zombies have weapons? If they did i think they would overpower us (do to the fact they are already dead.) So it is really a question of who has more fire-power.

Aside from their mouths (for eating humans), no, they don't have weapons. For the sake of everyone's sanity, we'll just deal with the slower, Resident Evil-type zombies. Their primal (and only) instinct is to find flesh to feed on. Once the human dies and reanimates into a zombie, they no longer have the brain capacity to utilize weapons beyond their arms.

YMMV.

-PC

navytrooper

09-01-2009, 11:10 PM

For those of you who can't find a copy of the "Zombie Survival Guide" by Max Brooks, there's a neat wiki based on information from the book. www.zombiesurvivalwiki.com :D

Woody

09-02-2009, 07:21 AM

Taking the head off or destroying the brain is the only certain way of killing a zombie,fire also works but zombie will keep walking around for a while on fire which may have obvious problems.The book z wars has some good ideas about the effectivness of modern weapons on zombies.

C.A.P. Flight Officer

09-16-2009, 01:34 PM

grunt0311

09-16-2009, 02:54 PM

Found this at the airport in Hawaii, had to buy it.

mtnsldr

09-16-2009, 03:20 PM

It is hilarious. There are more from him as well.

PhoenixCadet

09-16-2009, 06:57 PM

This is just plain freaky. Ok, let' say this in some weird freak of nature event does happen. How would they climb out of their casket and then climb up through six feet of dirt and probably a cement slab on some graves? If this did ever happen due to some freak of nature, anyone thought that we would be killing our relatives and friends that have passed on? Sorry to ruin the fun here ladies and germs but everyone has an input :D I am curious to see if anyone is going to answer my question. :D

If you've ever watched any zombie movies or read any zombie literature - you'd see that it's about those who are already living, and come into contact with an infected specimen. The only way for a corpse to reanimate as a zombie is if it were out in the open and came into contact with the virus in question. Those who are six feet under will stay there.

Regarding killing your "family members" (I guess one could look at it differently from the perspective of different religions, but...) it's not really your actual family members and friends you'd be killing. They're, well... dead. A zombie is simply the corpse, with one sole instinct: to hunt for food. There is no personality or any other specifics tied to said zombie to reflect who it was before it died and reanimated.

YMMV.

-PC

C.A.P. Flight Officer

09-16-2009, 07:16 PM

If you've ever watched any zombie movies or read any zombie literature - you'd see that it's about those who are already living, and come into contact with an infected specimen. The only way for a corpse to reanimate as a zombie is if it were out in the open and came into contact with the virus in question. Those who are six feet under will stay there.

Regarding killing your "family members" (I guess one could look at it differently from the perspective of different religions, but...) it's not really your actual family members and friends you'd be killing. They're, well... dead. A zombie is simply the corpse, with one sole instinct: to hunt for food. There is no personality or any other specifics tied to said zombie to reflect who it was before it died and reanimated.

YMMV.

-PC

.......................... This is me shutting up and backing down. I didn’t expect anyone to answer my question but PC did. Not to mention PC did a good job of answering my questions. I have no come back because I can’t think of one good enough.

I have not seen any zombie movies lately because I am not a fan of zombies but your point about graves is taken.

Concerning the family portion of the little debate. Point taken. No rebuttal. :D

C.A.P. Flight Officer

09-22-2009, 01:03 AM

Im sorry :( I seem to be a spoil sport in this thread :(

PhoenixCadet

09-22-2009, 01:11 AM

Im sorry :( I seem to be a spoil sport in this thread :(

No, we just haven't been successful in converting you...

Start off by watching the Resident Evil series, Dawn of the Dead, I am Legend, and any other zombie movies out there you can think of.

You will be one of us one day. Trust me.

:p

-PC

Ploplacy73

10-30-2009, 02:12 PM

PhoenixCadet

10-30-2009, 02:29 PM

"Remember that zombies have to eat to survive, just like us, so the best strategy is to just starve them to death."

Can you starve a zombie to death if its not really alive?

I will ponder this for days.

I would assume that you can starve a zombie. A zombie's sole function is to eat other flesh. The only logical reason for this is because of the "nutrients" (if you can call them that) in the flesh to stay alive. Why would a zombie's sole, instinctive function be to eat, if it didn't need to survive by those means?

-PC