Letter to Obama from 4th grade teacher

[C/ B3RRY NJROTC]

Ok...I normally like to stay out of the politcal side of Grunts because I don't like conflict and I feel that politics start conflicts between people, but I just got this email from a friend and well I don't know...

Here's an excellent letter to the President. I wish I had written it so I
could be on Obama's **** list. The school teacher really nailed him. How
many millions of Americans across this country think exactly what this school
teacher has put in this e-mail? What scares me is that every single day
something surfaces that has been signed as a "Presidential order," or
suddenly just appears as law! WHO does this stuff while we are all sleeping
at night? Those printing presses in DC must run night and day. These first 100
days have been the most destructive period of time in our nation's history -
and we don't even know the half of it!

April 17, 2009
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington , DC 20500


Mr. Obama:

I have had it with you and your administration, sir. Your conduct on your
recent trip overseas has convinced me that you are not an adequate
representative of the United States of America collectively or of me
personally.

You are so obsessed with appeasing the Europeans and the Muslim world that
you have abdicated the responsibilities of the President of the United States
of America . You are responsible to the citizens of the United States . You
are not responsible to the people of any other country on earth.

I personally resent that you go around the world apologizing for the United
States telling Europeans that we are arrogant and do not care about their
status in the world. Sir, what do you think the First World War and the
Second World War were all about, if not the consideration of the people of
Europe ? Are you brain dead? What do you think the Marshall Plan was all
about? Do you not understand or know the history of the 20th century?

Where do you get off telling a Muslim country that the United States does
not consider itself a Christian country? Have you not read the Declaration
of Independence or the Constitution of the United States ? This country was
founded on Judeo-Christian ethics, at least until you came along, and the
principles governing this country come directly from this heritage. Do you
not understand this?

Your bowing to the king of Saudi Arabia is an affront to all Americans. Our
President does not bow down to anyone, let alone the king of Saudi Arabia .
You didn't show Great Britain , our best and one of our oldest allies, the
respect they deserve, yet you bow down to the king of Saudi Arabia . How
dare you, sir! How dare you!

You cant find the time to visit the graves of our greatest generation because
you dont want to offend the Germans, but make time to visit a mosque in
Turkey . You offended our dead and every veteran when you gave the Germans
more respect than the people who saved the German people from themselves.
Whats the matter with you?

I am convinced that you and the members of your administration have the
historical and intellectual depth of a mud puddle and should be ashamed of
yourselves, all of you.

You are so self-righteously offended by the big bankers and the American
automobile manufacturers, yet do nothing about the real thieves in this
situation, Mr. Dodd, Mr. Frank, Franklin Raines, Jamie Gorelic, the Fannie
Mae bonuses, and the Freddie Mac bonuses. What do you intend to do about
them? Anything? I seriously doubt it.
Executives at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac will be receiving $210 million in
bonuses over an eighteen-month period, that's $45 million more than the AIG
bonuses. In fact, Fannie and Freddie executives have already been awarded
$51 million not a bad take. Who authorized that and why havent you
expressed your outrage at this group who are largely responsible for the
economic mess we have right now.

What about the U.S. House members passing out $9.1 million in bonuses to
their staff members on top of the $2.5 million in automatic pay raises that
lawmakers gave themselves? I understand the average House aide got a 17%
bonus. I took a 5% cut in my pay to save jobs with my employer. You havent
said anything about that. Who authorized that? I surely didnt!

I resent that you take me and my fellow citizens as brain-dead and not caring
about what you idiots do. We are watching what you are doing and we are
getting increasingly fed up with all of you.

I also want you to know that I personally find just about everything you do
and say to be offensive to every one of my sensibilities. I promise you that
I will work tirelessly to see that you do not get a chance to spend two terms
destroying my beautiful country..
Sincerely,

Ms. Kathleen Lyday
Fourth Grade Teacher
Grandview Elementary School
11470 Hwy. C
Hillsboro , MO 63050
(636) 944-3291 Phone
(636) 944-3870 Fax


Initial reaction...DANG! Someone's a bit fired up..........So Thoughts???

[Buffa1oso1di3r]

That is made of win...

[mtnsldr]

Not attributable to Ms. Lyday, but apparently true...

http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/ihavehadit.asp

[C/CLN]

If I were writing a letter to the President of the United States, I would make sure my grammar was absolutely impeccable before mailing it. Maybe that is why Obama thinks "[Ms. Lyday] and [her] fellow citizens [are] brain-dead". Her points are true and I agree with her, whilst her grammar is contradictory to her education, especially to an educated person like Mr. Obama.

I understand that her grammar has no implications on her message other than the aesthetics of it, but it discredits her in a way quite apparent to a person as politically mono-directional and clever (whether you admit it or not, this man is extremely smart) as Mr. Obama.

*Disclaimer*: I don't have perfect grammar myself all the time, but I would give the biggest effort I could muster when writing a letter to a public official.
*Disclaimer No. 2*: While I call the President "smart", that doesn't mean he is sensible.

[mtnsldr]

Apparently you neglected to read the post directly above yours...

[soccermark23]

I give it a thumbs up.:salute:

[C./Fields]

Right on the freakin money. Too bad it won't do much good...he's already messed up this country too much already and there's no telling what crazy idea he'll think of next.

[C/CLN]

Apparently you neglected to read the post directly above yours...
I didn't read the link.

[Drill for life]

*Disclaimer No. 2*: While I call the President "smart", that doesn't mean he is sensible.

He may be learnt (I know I spelled "learned" wrong but it's for a reason) but he definently isn't wise.

[C/CLN]

He may be learnt (I know I spelled "learned" wrong but it's for a reason) but he definently isn't wise.
Which is exactly what I said, in different words. "Learnt" is a word.

[C/ B3RRY NJROTC]

Well I do have to say Obama has stood by his campaign slogan of "Change"...Hmmm maybe he should've put little asterisks next to the word change on his posters, then explained on the bottom of the posters, Changes may vary between good and bad and I will not admit that changes I have made are bad...Only the good changes :D

...:mad:

[C/CLN]

I don't feel his healthcare crap will be passed, honestly. And even if it is, people will dislike it too much to put up with it. I think it will be scrapped. There is a need for change in healthcare, but this BS he's churning out how is a bunch of bureaucratic, re-election-getting crap.

[C/ B3RRY NJROTC]

Well just this morning on the news He said that there's been enough talk about healthcare and now it's time to take action!...Yeah...Not gonna happen...

[C/ B3RRY NJROTC]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_KiRG1-Cx_xk/SeYd-BPA_WI/AAAAAAAAAIU/3ocwJPcHEtY/s400/D-anti-obama-no-barack-we-cant.gif

...So true!

[C/CLN]

I also think that if it is passed, people in America these days don't even know their rights, and are too afraid, and a LOT of people are too incompetent to know the repercussions of this bill if it is signed in to law, that even after ppl start hating it, they won't do anything about it. The American spirit is nothing like it used to be. And I don't care what anyone else says.

[C/ B3RRY NJROTC]

I also think that if it is passed, people in America these days don't even know their rights, and are too afraid, and a LOT of people are too incompetent to know the repercussions of this bill if it is signed in to law, that even after ppl start hating it, they won't do anything about it. The American spirit is nothing like it used to be. And I don't care what anyone else says.

You're so right! I was watching the news this morning and they were saying how Obama's speech had to be moved to a different date so that people could watch an important episode of America's got talent and not miss the speech...Kinda ridiculous. I think Americans like to say that they have spirit, but when it comes to showing it instead of just talking about it many, not all there are still some proud Americans who show their spirit, but Unfortunately many fall short. So they really can't complain about anything because they're all talk and no action, if they had that old American spirit they would actually do something and our country would once again be run by the people and not stuffy politicians who are only concerned with their own interests instead of the peoples.

[AWing Pilot]

I don't know. For a man elected simply based on skin color he's not doing that bad....all things considered.

[C./Fields]

a LOT of people are too incompetent to know the repercussions

(I like to refer to them as the "dumbm'asses" of America if you know what I mean)

For this reason is why Obama was elected in the first place, why he has been able to do what he has, and why he will pass his "healthcare proposal of doom" (it's not the entire fault of the people, however; the majority of the media has warped peoples minds to mush and sprayed the rhetoric of liberals that they want them, and you, to hear)

[CAPSmith]

Our elections have simply become a matter of "what will I get if I vote for you?" So now that we have over 50% of the population that pays absolutely nothing in taxes, what do they care if the taxes get raised? They don't pay anything, so it doesn't affect them.

The people who vote politicians in with socialist tendencies are doing so out of selfishness, a belief that they are entitled to everything that everyone worked for.

James Madison said, "Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the government."

However, somehow the "promote the general welfare" has been perverted into "Provide welfare."

[AWing Pilot]

Well said. My grandfather once told me that in his opinion the only way to get a man to get up and take care of himself is to give him no other choice. I think there is a lot of truth in that.

[C/CLN]

Our people are incompetent retards that don't know what's good for their own being, and none of this stuff will end well if this bill does end up being passed (which I don't think it will). Hell, America is destined to be the next England under Obama if he gets to do whatever he wants.

[Woody]

And that would be so terrible because ?:D.At least you wouldn't have to learn spanish:devil:

[C/CLN]

Really...? :sick:
You're right, we'd be speaking Urdu.

[CAPSmith]

And that would be so terrible because?

We wouldn't be able to fly Old Glory without permission so we didn't offend anyone...

[C/ B3RRY NJROTC]

Hell, America is destined to be the next England under Obama if he gets to do whatever he wants.

King Barack Obama....HMMM doesn't really have a nice American ring to it....

[mtnsldr]

Easy there stud.

[Woody]

We wouldn't be able to fly Old Glory without permission so we didn't offend anyone...

No one actually been prosecuted for flying a flag because it might offend
someone .Putting flag poles up without permission thats health and safety rather than poltical correctness.

[CAPSmith]

No one actually been prosecuted for flying a flag because it might offend someone .Putting flag poles up without permission thats health and safety rather than poltical correctness.

Seems to be a bit of self loathing as a nation to only allow the flying of your national colors but 18 times a year. I suppose I fail to see how putting a flag on the flag pole is a matter of "health and safety." I think you guys just gave in to the PC crowd...

[C/CLN]

Easy there stud.
If it were warranted, I wouldn't give any thought to it if someone did it.

[SlightlyCatholic]

If it were warranted, I wouldn't give any thought to it if someone did it.

Them are fightin' words...and a great way to get either arrested or punched in the face. Say that on public transit and let us know how your trip was...:devil:

[C/ B3RRY NJROTC]

Them are fightin' words...and a great way to get either arrested or punched in the face. Say that on public transit and let us know how your trip was...:devil:

Hahaha yeah soooo true!! :D

[C/CLN]

Them are fightin' words...and a great way to get either arrested or punched in the face. Say that on public transit and let us know how your trip was...:devil:
Arrest me for what?
I never implied I would do it.
I can make jokes about someone being shot all day if I want and no one can do a thing, not that I normally would.

[C/ B3RRY NJROTC]

Arrest me for what?
I never implied I would do it.
I can make jokes about someone being shot all day if I want and no one can do a thing, not that I normally would.

You would be a national security threat...Unfortunately freedom of speech isn't all that free.

[SlightlyCatholic]

You would be a national security threat...Unfortunately freedom of speech isn't all that free.

Bingo! "Terrorism" has an extremely broad definition now...you have to watch what you say.

[C/ B3RRY NJROTC]

Bingo! "Terrorism" has an extremely broad definition now...you have to watch what you say.

Unfortunately yeah...And you have Bin Laden and his special friends to thank for this...We went to D.C. last summer and we went to the White House and I stood right at the fence and was scared to say anything cause I thought CIA would come out of nowhere and tackle me to the ground so I just stood there in silence...Hahaha. But seriously it's sad that America has come to this all because a group of people hate us for being just sooo AWESOME haha

[TheLegalShark]

Unfortunately yeah...And you have Bin Laden and his special friends to thank for this...We went to D.C. last summer and we went to the White House and I stood right at the fence and was scared to say anything cause I thought CIA would come out of nowhere and tackle me to the ground so I just stood there in silence...Hahaha. But seriously it's sad that America has come to this all because a group of people hate us for being just sooo AWESOME haha

No, you have a knee jerk reaction to what Bin Laden did to thank for the changes that have occurred. You should have enjoyed your time at the White House, the secret service does not care care about what you say as long as it is something that is clearly not a threat. Hopefully you took the time to enjoy the rest of the city.

[C/CLN]

You would be a national security threat...Unfortunately freedom of speech isn't all that free.
I really doubt there'll be some Agents prancing at my door tomorrow.

[C/ B3RRY NJROTC]

Hopefully you took the time to enjoy the rest of the city.

Well I hate to say it, but no not really. I was with my friend's family, it was the middle of July and a cool 300 degrees outside and her crazy mother wanted to walk to all the monuments, not the one's I wanted to see (the military ones) we saw the ones she wanted to see the stupid ones I had never heard of before, and we got back to their car and they didn't have any water left...So yeah, but i'm going back later this year to do the freedom walk with my unit so i'm sure that'll be wayyyy better! :D

[C/ B3RRY NJROTC]

I really doubt there'll be some Agents prancing at my door tomorrow.

Yeah you're right they won't....They won't be prancing at your door they'll just beat it down hahaha :D

[mtnsldr]

I really doubt there'll be some Agents prancing at my door tomorrow.

Do you want to join the military? Then start practicing professionalism.

[C/ B3RRY NJROTC]

Respectively sir, for the most part from what i've seen of him, C/ CLN does practice professionalism, at least on the forum, He was just kidding around.

[mtnsldr]

I've seen his postings here as well, and this one is not to the same standard. Hence my comment.

[C/ B3RRY NJROTC]

I've seen his postings here as well, and this one is not to the same standard. Hence my comment.

I understand your point. Everyone has their days or in this case posts and i'm sure that's the case here.

[C/CLN]

I've seen his postings here as well, and this one is not to the same standard. Hence my comment.
I am a very strongly opinionated person; if you don't like it, get over it. I am not in a business meeting nor am I trying to flatter someone. I can have my own political views and I can express them in any way I wish as long as I don't infringe upon the rights of some other person. Perhaps what I said upset you, and that was not what I intended, but I do not change my views for the reading pleasure of someone else.

PS: Thank you, C/ B3RRY NJROTC.

[C./Fields]

Do you want to join the military? Then start practicing professionalism.

Chill, bud. You don't know the person...he doesn't always absolutely serious and high strung all the time to get in...humor's what keeps many from getting absolutely depressed in combat anyways so more doesn't hurt.

[C/ B3RRY NJROTC]

I am a very strongly opinionated person; if you don't like it, get over it. I am not in a business meeting nor am I trying to flatter someone. I can have my own political views and I can express them in any way I wish as long as I don't infringe upon the rights of some other person. Perhaps what I said upset you, and that was not what I intended, but I do not change my views for the reading pleasure of someone else.

PS: Thank you, C/ B3RRY NJROTC.

Hey no prob...This is the Cadet Lounge and this exact situation is the reason why I put this thread into the cadet lounge, so that people could say whatever they wanted and not have to worry about being professional. The subject wasn't meant to be serious although it has it's serious replies, but most of the replies have been jokes. I just didn't feel it was right to overreact to your joking reply when the entire thread, almost, has been one big joking session. :)

[mtnsldr]

I am a very strongly opinionated person; if you don't like it, get over it. I am not in a business meeting nor am I trying to flatter someone. I can have my own political views and I can express them in any way I wish as long as I don't infringe upon the rights of some other person. Perhaps what I said upset you, and that was not what I intended, but I do not change my views for the reading pleasure of someone else.


I think you seriously underestimate how much I care about your opinion.

All I'm simply trying to impart on you, from the perspective of a leader of men, is that sometimes your opinion is completely and utterly unnecessary. In the frame of discussion relating to whether or not the Commander in Chief should live, by your hand or another, you've kind of overstepped your bounds.

Comments like that, that escape from the mouths of those who wish to serve this nation, kinda get my hackles up. Better to learn now when to keep it shut and when to open it up.

Chill, bud. You don't know the person...he doesn't always absolutely serious and high strung all the time to get in...humor's what keeps many from getting absolutely depressed in combat anyways so more doesn't hurt.

Did I miss something? Are we buddies now? You wanna come over to my house for a beer? Wanna meet my sister?

Yeah stud, tell me more about combat...

Hey no prob...This is the Cadet Lounge and this exact situation is the reason why I put this thread into the cadet lounge, so that people could say whatever they wanted and not have to worry about being professional. The subject wasn't meant to be serious although it has it's serious replies, but most of the replies have been jokes. I just didn't feel it was right to overreact to your joking reply when the entire thread, almost, has been one big joking session. :)

I have no problem with jokes. This went beyond the line of good taste. There are certain things you don't do, especially when you're in the military. Those aspiring to join the ranks would be best served learning how to control themselves before they join. I can cite many instances where behavior like this consumes hours upon end for unit commanders to deal with.

[C/CLN]

And you know what? Not everyone cares about your opinion either, get over it. No disrespect intended, but that is the truth.

[SlightlyCatholic]

Hey no prob...This is the Cadet Lounge and this exact situation is the reason why I put this thread into the cadet lounge, so that people could say whatever they wanted and not have to worry about being professional.

Berry,

I don't mean to pick on you, but I think comments like the one above lead people to very dangerous assumptions. One assumption (which I think can be dangerous if adopted) is that professionalism ends when a certain part of the forum has a different label. You could label a section of the forum "The Kiddie Ball Pit", but the problem is that this entire place (except for the Moderator/Admin treehouse) is public. Sure, it's supposed to be the "Cadet Lounge", but people can still see what's being written. Professionalism doesn't stop because there's a loose agreement not to scrutinize it 100%of the time in one part of the forum.

On another note, perhaps we could start a discussion regarding what constitutes "professional" public speech? It might make for a good thread.

[C/ B3RRY NJROTC]

Berry,

I don't mean to pick on you, but I think comments like the one above lead people to very dangerous assumptions. One assumption (which I think can be dangerous if adopted) is that professionalism ends when a certain part of the forum has a different label. You could label a section of the forum "The Kiddie Ball Pit", but the problem is that this entire place (except for the Moderator/Admin treehouse) is public. Sure, it's supposed to be the "Cadet Lounge", but people can still see what's being written. Professionalism doesn't stop because there's a loose agreement not to scrutinize it 100%of the time in one part of the forum.

On another note, perhaps we could start a discussion regarding what constitutes "professional" public speech? It might make for a good thread.

Yeah I understand...I kinda had a feeling that a situation like this current one would come up if I started this thread and that's the reason why I was hesitatant on starting it. I know the subject is a touchy one and most people are completely against Obama or completely for him (not saying all people are like that hence the reason why I said MOST). This thread wasn't supposed to be a serious one and the jokes did get a little out of hand. I do feel that there's a certain level of professionalism that should be followed in the cadet lounge. I just want to get past this conflict that's going on. I'm sorry for anything that I've said or done that's upset anyone.

[C/ B3RRY NJROTC]

I have no problem with jokes. This went beyond the line of good taste. There are certain things you don't do, especially when you're in the military. Those aspiring to join the ranks would be best served learning how to control themselves before they join. I can cite many instances where behavior like this consumes hours upon end for unit commanders to deal with.

I agree with the jokes getting out of hand. I shouldn't have posted this thread, i knew this situation would happen i had just hoped that it wouldn't. I agree with you that there does need to be a level of professionalism in the Cadet Lounge. We, members of the cadet forum, most of us belong to JROTC units. We represent these units everytime we sign in and i think we sometimes forget that, i know i have. Our actions are being watched and some of the things we say aren't a good representation of our units.

Normally I am very professional when on grunt's, I have kinda let myself go with this thread. As an aspiring officer in the Navy I know that I need to have professionalism with most of the aspects of my life and most of the time, like I said I do. I'm sorry and I won't let this happen again.

[PhoenixCadet]

And you know what? Not everyone cares about your opinion either, get over it. No disrespect intended, but that is the truth.

That strikes me as similar to those who preface their addressing of a superior with "With all due respect...", because it's usually followed by something totally disrespectful, like your post. While I would tell you to learn how to respect your superiors, it's far too late for that. What I will tell you is, if you're going to act the way you are now, don't hide behind your meaningless little disclaimers. It just makes you look like a hippocrite (and a few other things I won't say publically).

-PC

[C/CLN]

Oh my God. So I make a rather distasteful comment, and everyone freaks out. Calm down. It's not like I burned someone alive. If I wanted to be disrespectful to someone, I could have been intentionally. If I DID intend disrespect, I wouldn't have said I didn't. Disagreeing with someone is not disrespect. Everyone says stupid things sometimes, and I agree what I said wasn't the best thing to say to get my point across. "Superiority" does not guarantee that person the right to belittle someone else.

[C./Fields]

1. Are we buddies now?

2. You wanna come over to my house for a beer?

3. Wanna meet my sister?

4. Yeah stud,...


1. No, we aren't. I'm trying to get you to cool down and stop trying to say C/CLN won't get into the military because of what he posts. I agree to an extent that his comment about someone killing the president was a little far, but don't judge a few of his posts to be his attitude and way of acting all the time. The purpose of this subforum is said to be "a place where you can let your guard down" and people do just that...from what I've gained from reading other's posts, they say he acts with professionalism in all his other posts, and as such, I'm guessing he knows when professionalism is necessary and when you can let your guard down (like I said before, you don't have to always be high strung and professional in all situations, especially in this one); I seriously doubt you don't display an ounce of humor in any situation ever; when in situations that require professionalism, I'm sure he will display it, but that doesn't mean he can't also have a humorous side when it's not required

2. No, I don't plan on ever drinking...if anything's unprofessional, that surely is...

3. Depends... :D

4. Oh, so I'm a "stud" now...I didn't know you were like that (don't ask, don't tell")

[SlightlyCatholic]

Everyone says stupid things sometimes, and I agree what I said wasn't the best thing to say to get my point across.

...And that's where it should end, at least publicly. I used to be just like you here, meaning that I fought openly with people and drove home every point I could in the most blunt manner possible. I'm slowly learning that it's not the way to go. Why? A four letter word called "tact". It'll make or break your image...I know, because for the longest time I didn't care about it. Now, I see the benefits of it.

What does tact mean? It means handling things privately as much as possible and only taking things "outside the wire" when all other private means have failed. People here know me and they know how I've acted in the past with adults and vets here, so this might seem like a session of the pot calling the kettle black. However, I've done (and am still doing) my best to learn how to effectively resolve my own conflicts here on Grunt's.

If you don't want to listen to me, that's fine. Just keep in mind that hammers are better suited for construction than resolving conflicts. I know from experience.

Fields,

I don't think anybody's ever called Mtnsldr "gay" before. I guess there's a first for everything!

[armysc_25b]

2. No, I don't plan on ever drinking...if anything's unprofessional, that surely is...

You're the first person I've ever heard of calling drinking unprofessional. Any reason behind it? Nothing wrong with not drinking, I'm just curious about your opinion.

[C./Fields]

You're the first person I've ever heard of calling drinking unprofessional. Any reason behind it? Nothing wrong with not drinking, I'm just curious about your opinion.

Personally, I have nothing against other's drinking since it's not my business what they do or don't, but in my case I want to have nothing to do with it for one that I am currently underage and two that drinking in excess can lead to unprofessional behavior; I am indifferent to people drinking say a glass of red wine for health reasons but doing it just for the sake of it (especially in excess) is not productive and helpful to health whatsoever...

[C./Fields]

...And that's where it should end, at least publicly. I used to be just like you here, meaning that I fought openly with people and drove home every point I could in the most blunt manner possible. I'm slowly learning that it's not the way to go. Why? A four letter word called "tact". It'll make or break your image...I know, because for the longest time I didn't care about it. Now, I see the benefits of it.

What does tact mean? It means handling things privately as much as possible and only taking things "outside the wire" when all other private means have failed. People here know me and they know how I've acted in the past with adults and vets here, so this might seem like a session of the pot calling the kettle black. However, I've done (and am still doing) my best to learn how to effectively resolve my own conflicts here on Grunt's.



Fair enough... to maintain tact, I won't post anything more that will cause conflict or more argument as in my previous posts (in response to other's posts or otherwise)

[PhoenixCadet]

This just showed up on my local news station's website:

KGTV - Man Convicted For Threatening Obama on the Internet (http://www.10news.com/news/20200551/detail.html)

Just sayin'...

-PC

[C/ B3RRY NJROTC]

Thanks for posting that PC. We all need to watch what we say on here. Everyone that plans on posting anything else on this thread needs to read that before you post. Thanks :)

BTW, PC, You're out in San Diego?! I'm from SD! :D

[-BuLL-]

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

[C/ B3RRY NJROTC]

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhh.


Did you just shush me???? Why??? :dontgetit:

[SlightlyCatholic]

Did you just shush me???? Why??? :dontgetit:

Posting where you (or others) reside on the internet is usually a bad move, especially on a public forum. That whole "Cadet Protection Policy" thing. Either that or Bull just thinks you're posting too much...:dontgetit:

[PhoenixCadet]

Posting where you (or others) reside on the internet is usually a bad move, especially on a public forum.

Let's get real here. There's 1,353,993 people in the city of San Diego, and 3,001,072 in the San Diego metro area. That's not quite the same as giving someone a specific street address.

[SlightlyCatholic]

Let's get real here.

I was actually going to be fake, but since you asked...

That's not quite the same as giving someone a specific street address.

I was just trying to understand why "Shhhhhh" would constitute an actual post in this thread. I'm well aware of the chances of finding a needle in a stack of millions of needles.

[-BuLL-]

I did it for CPP, yea I know there is alot of people in San Diego, just didn't know if y'all were going to start getting into details. It was anything against ya, Berry. :D

[C/SSGT Seifer]

While the things in the letter are true, I think that the letter is rather extreme and rude. On top of that, since so much emotion is involved it makes it less likely to be taken seriously. I think this lady is a little self righteous, as if she can do any better in his position. The thing about people criticizing those with power is that he probably thinks he is doing the right thing, but other people have opposite views. That will always be a constant, even if a president digs us half way out of our national debt, some people will still say he/she is going about it the wrong way. Honestly people need to get off their high horse and put themselves in the presidential position. I don't often get involved in politics but damn, give the man a chance. As for the quote, "Our President does not bow down to anyone, let alone the king of Saudi Arabia ," apparently he does:p.

[-BuLL-]

While the things in the letter are true, I think that the letter is rather extreme and rude. On top of that, since so much emotion is involved it makes it less likely to be taken seriously. I think this lady is a little self righteous, as if she can do any better in his position. The thing about people criticizing those with power is that he probably thinks he is doing the right thing, but other people have opposite views. That will always be a constant, even if a president digs us half way out of our national debt, some people will still say he/she is going about it the wrong way. Honestly people need to get off their high horse and put themselves in the presidential position. I don't often get involved in politics but damn, give the man a chance. As for the quote, "Our President does not bow down to anyone, let alone the king of Saudi Arabia ," apparently he does:p.

He's had 7 months of chance.......

[PhoenixCadet]

While the things in the letter are true, I think that the letter is rather extreme and rude.

"Extreme"? Do you not think "extreme" actions, of someone in an "extremely major" position deserve "extreme" feedback? Regardless of the tone used, none of it was really "rude" - it was merely expressing "extreme" opinion and emotion. If you aren't prepared to take the heat, don't get in the spotlight.

...he probably thinks he is doing the right thing, but other people have opposite views.

Wasn't Obama one of the many folks that criticized Bush's "spending habits"? He has no right to go on and spend what Bush did, many, many, many times over.

I think this lady is a little self righteous, as if she can do any better in his position.

Oh? So no one can do better than Obama is doing now? Or are you just speaking of this specific person? You do not know her personally, nor her political aptitude. Keep comments like this to your self.

Like BULL said, he's had seven months of a "chance". How much more does he need? His entire term? I think he's done a fine job of showing what he's capable of (rather, incapable of), and deserves the harshest of criticisms.

-PC

[C/SSGT Seifer]

...Oh? So no one can do better than Obama is doing now? Or are you just speaking of this specific person? You do not know her personally, nor her political aptitude. Keep comments like this to your self.

Like BULL said, he's had seven months of a "chance". How much more does he need? His entire term? I think he's done a fine job of showing what he's capable of (rather, incapable of), and deserves the harshest of criticisms.

-PC

I am not saying that no one can do better than him, however most people probably could not, and under the pressure would probably snap. The likelyhood of this fourth grade teacher being able to be a better president given her occupation is slim to none. As stated earlier Obama's problem isn't that he isn't smart, its that he isn't wise and lacks the experience required for this job. I don't think that the average civilian would be able to live up to the expectations of a president, not just this single person.
Unfortunately, (because I am sure this is how people will think,) seeing as Obama is the first black president, (and up until this point, not the best,) this will leave a bad taste in the voters' mouths and will most likely keep a black person out of office for many terms to come.

[PhoenixCadet]

The likelyhood of this fourth grade teacher being able to be a better president given her occupation is slim to none.

What are you saying about grade school teachers? I know plenty of teachers (of many grades) who could handle the Presidency, and do a hell of a better job than the standing POTUS.

If you're alluding to an idea that politicans should have previous political experience (i.e. serving at lower levels on the political scale before running for higher office), I'm actually quite against that. I never cared for career politicans, because they eventually become corrupt, stagnant, and clutter up our system. Previous political experience (and mass amounts of money) shouldn't be unwritten requirements to be involved in politics.

YMMV.