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Shadow811
06-05-2009, 10:09 PM
I was wondering how a unit should be organized into a group when you have around 190- 230 cadets in your program.

Shadow811
06-05-2009, 11:03 PM
Okay. thank you.

AFCadetSteel
06-05-2009, 11:06 PM
Special Asst to the SASI

Group CO
Group XO
OpsO
Command Chief
Chaplin, PAO, etc.
Special Unit CO's (KHAS, Drill Team, Model Rocketry, APT, etc.)
Sq1
A and B Flt
Sq2
C and D Flt
Sq3
E and F Flt
Sq4
G and H Flt
Sq5
I and J Flt
Sq6
K and L Flt


Very simple but it works out

TruBlu
06-06-2009, 12:34 PM
It depends on the needs of your unit, the type and amount of classes, AS year percentiles, your current structure, etc., we can give you a more personalized approach.

C/CLN
06-06-2009, 01:14 PM
I disagree. Every unit needs some of the same basic staff positions, and I believe that the original poster can determine what he needs based on our suggestions.
He already told us how many people he has, and I am going to assume that about half the Unit is freshmen. His current structure is completely irrelavent if he wants a new one.
I am assuming he already knows how the structure of a Group works, so he can filter out what he doesn't want from what we have said, and tweak it around until it fits him

TruBlu
06-06-2009, 01:59 PM
Sure, the same basic structure, but you want to know what basic actually means. For a group it means this: Group CC, Squadron CC's, Flight CC's, airmen. That's basic. Assume all you want about his corps, but that's what gets people in to trouble, an assumption based on the opinion of your own corps and current situation. I'll deal in facts and learn something a little more than a rough estimate of the total number of cadets.

Current situations are far from irrelevant when designing new structures, especially a major overhaul, which we do not know to be the case at the moment. When designing an organizational structure, you need something that fits your situation, to include what's going on right now, what needs to happen, and how you are going to do it. I've worked with organizational structures for a while now and have spent quite some time trying to find the exact need for my corps, as well as others on this board. I won't say it's all worked 100% for everyone, that just won't happen, but so far, I've done a decent job if I say so.

Organizational concepts, even with a program like JROTC can get very very heavy. I ask for more information because I don't like assuming things when people come for help, especially in situations where an entire corps may be affected by what is said. The key is adaptability. Still, I'd like to hear from the OP and see if I can't offer my aid.

Shadow811
06-07-2009, 11:21 PM
thanks for the info. i am trying to centralize the command structure in my unit because too many ppl have positions but don't do anything

MEA XpLiciT
11-08-2009, 01:19 AM
My group is setup like this. We have about 200 cadets so relitively the same as yours.
SASI
ASI
Group Commander
Vice-group Commander
Squadron Commander
NCO's
Flight Commander
Flight Sargeant
Cadet

C/1 Lt Barhorst
02-21-2010, 07:59 AM
My AFJROTC program is set up like this:

1. SASI
2. ASI
3. Squadron Commander
4. Vice Squadron Commander
5. Drill team and Color guard Commanders
6. Staff Chiefs (Operations, Public Affairs, Logistics, Personnel, Wellness, Special Projects, and Information management)
7. Staff NCOICs (Operations, Public Affairs, Logistics, Personnel, Wellness, Special Projects, and Information management)
8. Flight Commanders
9. Flight Sergeants
10. Element Leaders
and the Individual Cadet corps