United States Naval Academy

[ufcfootballfan]

I was wondering if i could get some information on the Marine Corps side of the Naval Academy. The website is very large and hard to navigate and i can not find much info on it. Also if anyone could "PM" me i would like to give you a brief resume just to make sure i am on the right track.

[Billyd]

If you are in a hurry, contact the USNA directly. If not, you can leave a message for KaMiKaZi and wait for a response. I don't know how long it will take as he has graduated and has not been seen in this port much, and I know of no other Midshipman at the USNA that has a membership here.

[ufcfootballfan]

Oh, alright thank you very much.

[skf_atc]

I have a buddy of mine who's at the academy right now and is trying to go the Marine option.
Contact a Blue and Gold recruiter and they should be able to help you out. If not, send me a PM and next time I hit port and can get on, I'll try and get him to call or email you.

[Desert Sapper]

If it's anything like it was 15 years ago (wow), the Marine Corps is one possible choice for your wish list coming out of the Academy. Essentially, they have an order of merit list and if you are high enough and the slots are still available, you can select it. Many go to the USNA with the hopes of becoming a Marine...

...on the other hand, you could go to the US Military Academy at West Point, learn infantry tactics for four years, and attempt to branch Marine Corps (I had two classmates that successfully went to the Marines, one to the USAF and one to the USN). If you fail in your bid to become a Marine, you can fall back on the Infantry crossed rifles of the Army. You could become a member of the 82nd Airborne Division, the 101st, the 10th Mountain, the 3rd Infantry Division. These are great units.

...and then if you really prove your mettle you could apply to become one of the most elite warriors on the planet: a green beret.

Food for thought.

[-BuLL-]

If it is okay from the MODs for me to point you towards this site, it would probably be of great use to you. I believe a few members from this site are members on this other forum. It is dedicated strictly to Academies and ROTC. serviceacademyforums.com You can talk to more USNA grads then you could possibly imagine.

[SlightlyCatholic]

I was wondering if i could get some information on the Marine Corps side of the Naval Academy. The website is very large and hard to navigate and i can not find much info on it. Also if anyone could "PM" me i would like to give you a brief resume just to make sure i am on the right track.


Are you more set on being a Marine Officer or going to the Naval Academy? I think answering that question will help you figure out what you want to do.

[ufcfootballfan]

I want to be, and do both.

[Psybadek]

...and then if you really prove your mettle you could apply to become one of the most elite warriors on the planet: a green beret.

Deadliest Warrior would disagree with you. They did a over 1000 simulated tests between a squad of Green Beret's and Spetsnaz, and the Spetsnaz won something like 56% of the battles.

Though of course that's all simulated and I believe a Green Beret or Navy Seal could easily take out a Spetsnaz

[SlightlyCatholic]

I want to be, and do both.


If you ended up going Surface Line or Naval Aviator, would that cause you to leave the Academy?

[Desert Sapper]

Deadliest Warrior would disagree with you. They did a over 1000 simulated tests between a squad of Green Beret's and Spetsnaz, and the Spetsnaz won something like 56% of the battles.

Though of course that's all simulated and I believe a Green Beret or Navy Seal could easily take out a Spetsnaz

Doctrinally, it wouldn't be the A-Team that the Spetsnaz would have to worry about, but the 100+ trained and ready IF warriors they would bring to the fight. Like a squad taking on a company.

Yes, the SF is trained and proficient in DA (Direct Action), but their training skill is what makes them the most valuable. Like the adage:

The Differential Theory of Special Operations Forces:
Snake Model (abbreviated)

Paratrooper: Kills snake

Army Ranger : Assaults the snake's home and secures it
for use by friendly snakes.

Navy SEAL: Kills the snake, skins the snake, eats the snake, and makes boots so he can look cool for the CNN Camera.

Marine Recon: Follows the snake and gets lost.

Special Forces: Makes contact with the snake, builds rapport, wins its heart and mind, then trains it to kill other snakes.

:D

[SlightlyCatholic]

What about Air Force PJs? What do they do to the snake?

[Desert Sapper]

If I remember right they follow the snake to the pilot, kill the snake, then lead the pilot to safety.

The TACP guys call in an airstrike with over 500,000 total pounds of explosive, destroying everything in the area but the snake and pissing off the turtles. They roast a few marshmallows and link up with the SF guys to head home.

At least, that's how I think I remember it.;)

[C./Fields]

Are we forgetting something here...what about CAG (i.e. Delta)? I don't want to see the snake after they deal with it.

[mtnsldr]

Delta doesn't exist.

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[Desert Sapper]

If I had to guess, SFOD-D would be something like...

Surprises snake from behind in snake's own house, zipstrips and blindfolds snake and snakes associates, removes to secret location for further questioning.

[MOM]

The Ultimate Differential Theory of US Armed Forces (Snake Model)

Upon encountering a snake in the Area of Operations (AO)

Airborne: Lands on and kills the snake.

Air Force, O-6 and above: "Get that damned snake off the fairway!"

Armor: Runs over snake. Never knows it, as well as where he is on the battlefield. Continues directly ahead wondering what all those new buttons in his turret do.

Army Aviation: Has GPS ten digit grid to snake. Stands off at a range greater than any other weapon system and destroys snake with precision fires at a cost equivilant of one Mercedes 350SEL. Returns to base for fighter management and a "cool one".

Army Shrink: Attempts to get snake to explain its sexual feelings about its mother.

Chaplain: Tries to get snake to attend services, mend its ways.

Combat Controllers: Guides snake elsewhere.

Combat Engineer: Studies snake. Prepares in depth analysis based on obscure 5 series FM about how to defeat snake using counter mobility assets. Complains that maneuver forces don't understand how to properly conduct doctrinal counter-snake operations. (Engineer School tries to hide the fact that M9 ACE proves ineffective against snakes).

Field Artillery: Kills snake with massive Time On Target barrage with three Forward Artillery Brigades in support. Kills several hundred civilians as unavoidable collateral damage. Mission is considered a success and all participants (i.e., cooks, mechanics and clerks) are awarded Silver Stars.

Infantry: Snake smells them, leaves area.

Military Intelligence, G-2: Sanke? What snake? Only four of 35 indicators of snake activity are currently active. We assess the potential for snake activity as LOW.

Judge Advocate General (JAG): Snake declines to bite, citing professional courtesy.

Marines, ForceRecon: Follows snake, gets lost.

Marines, Infantry: Kills snake by accident while looking for souvenirs. Local civilians demand removal of all US forces from Area of Operations.

Mech Infantry: Runs over snake, laughs, and looks for more snakes.

Military Intelligence, S-2: Reports to ground troops that snake is a non-combatant. Six Infantry wounded. MI states that if the ground forces would have read the nesting diagram provided in the 24 page enemy intel report, they would have known the snake was a possible threat.

Military Police, Criminal Investigation: Handcuffs snake's head to its tail, reads it its Miranda rights, then proceeds to beat snake to a pulp with night stick.

Missileers, Air Force: Lays in target coordinates to snake in 20 seconds, but can't receive authorization from National Command Authority to use nuclear weapons.

Military Police, Field: Snake safely infiltrates rear area of operations.

Navy SeaBees: Build snake elaborate rec room, complete with secret still.

Navy, SEAL: Expends all ammunition and several grenades, then calls for naval gunfire in failed attempt to kill snake. Snake bites the SEAL, and dies of salt water poisoning. Hollywood makes film in which SEALS kill Muslim extremist snakes.

Navy, Surface Action Group: Fires off 50 cruise missiles from several ships, kills snake and makes presentation to Senate Appropriations Committee on how Naval forces are the most cost-effective means of anti-snake force projection.

Ordnance: IDs snake as having improper scales. Deadline snake and order parts against snake. Parts come in 15 days later but the snake has been upgraded to FMC due to scrounging of parts through improper channels.

Para-Rescue: Lands on snake upon descending, thereby injuring it, then feverishly works to save the nake's life.

Pilot, A-10: Has Global Positioning Satellite coordinates to snake. Can't find snake. Returns to base for refuel, crew rest and manicure.

Pilot, Air Force, B-52: Pulls ARCLIGHT mission on snake, kills snake and every other living thing within two miles of target.

Pilot, Air Force, F-15: Misidentifies snake as enemy Mil-24 Hind helicopter and engages with missiles. Crew chief paints snake kill on aircraft.

Pilot, Air Force, F-16: Finds snake, drops two CBU-87 cluster bombs, and misses snake target, but gets direct hit on Embassy 100 KM East of snake due to weather (Too Hot also Too Cold, Was Clear but too overcast, Too dry with Rain, Unlimited ceiling with low cloud cover etc.) Claims that purchasing multimillion dollar, high-tech snake-killing device will enable it in the future to kill all snakes and achieve a revolution in military affairs.

Pilot, Air Force, Fighter, Generic: Mis-identifies the snake as a HIND and engages it with missiles. Crew Chief paints snake on airplane.

Pilot, Air Force, Transport: Receives call for anti-snake equipment, and delivers two weeks after due date.

Pilot, Army, AH-64 Apache: Unable to locate snake, snakes don't show well on infrared. Infrared only operable in desert AO's without power lines or SAM's.

Pilot, Army, HH-53 Jolly Green Giant: Finds snake on fourth pass after snake builds bonfire, pops smoke, lays out flares to mark Landing Zone. Rotor wash blows snake into fire.

Quartermaster: Encounters snake, then loses contact. Can not identify who owns snake by hand receipts. Orders new snake through supply channels. Request is denied by higher authority; issuing the unit a snake will bring the manager to a zero balance; one snake must remain on hand at all times as per their boss' guidance.

Ranger: Plays with snake, then eats it.

Signal, Enlisted: Tries to communicate with snake . . . fails despite repeated attempts. Complains that the snake did not have the correct fill or did not know how to work equipment a child could operate.

Signal, Officer: Informs the commander that he could easily communicate with the snake using just his voice. Commander insists that he NEEDS to videoconference with the snake, with real-time streaming positional and logistical data on the snake displayed on video screens to either side. Gives Signal Corps $5 Billion to make this happen. SigO abuses the 2 smart people in the corps to make it happen, while everybody else stands around, bitches, and takes credit. In the end, GTE and several sub-contractors make a few billion dollars, the two smart people get out and go to work for them, and the commander gets what he asked for only in fiber-optic based simulations. The snake dies of old age.

SJA: Swear they saw something like that on the Discovery Channel . . . spend weeks arguing if it was a snake or not.

Special Forces: Makes contact with snake, ignores all State Department directives and Theater Commander Rules of Engagement by building rapport with snake and winning its heart and mind. Trains it to kill other snakes. Files enormous travel settlement upon return.

Supply: (NOTICE: Your anti-snake equipment is on backorder.)

Transportation Corps: "Snake? What snake? We were sleeping in the truck."

War Correspondent: Decides snake is patriotic nationalist agrarian reformer being molested by imperialist U.S. forces, asks snake for directions to nearest bar. If bitten by snake, charges U.S. troops with neglect of duty to protect freedom of the press.

[C./Fields]

Delta doesn't exist.

Oh man, now I've done it...the men in black masks will probably come in the night and take me away for spillin the beans:nervous:

[Buffa1oso1di3r]

Speaking of the USNA...

I'm a Candidate!

I think I'm going to go for it... nothing to lose, right? :D

[Billyd]

Speaking of the USNA...

I'm a Candidate!

I think I'm going to go for it... nothing to lose, right? :D

And everything to gain. Seems others have agreed with us and seen fit to nominate you to great things. I guess we will be calling you Midshipman this time next year. Let us know how the process goes.

[fjer]

Speaking of the USNA...

I'm a Candidate!

I think I'm going to go for it... nothing to lose, right? :D

Except your dignity... :D

[Buffa1oso1di3r]

What dignity? :o

[CapnA]

As someone who was accepted to USNA, attended and completed NAPS, and has plenty of first and second hand knowledge on the Academy... feel free to reply here or PM me with any questions. I may be a bit delayed in responding to them, but most everything is fair game.

R/

CapnA

[Buffa1oso1di3r]

Will I be able to listen to any form of music other than over the radio at the Academy... or are radios even allowed? :lookaround:

[CapnA]

Yes and no. As a plebe, one does not rate any media privileges... to include television and music (via iPod, radio, etc). Do people get around this? Yes, but at the risk of their own integrity violation. However, that is not to say that some professors will write there whole classes "media chits" that allow them to have headphones and access to music for research or studying purposes (like using language software or to watch documentaries). After plebe year, there are very few if no restrictions at all on your media privileges.

For example, I came home over Christmas break and had no idea who Lady Gaga was or where she had come from. It's an interesting way to cut out one of your basic pleasures and then be reimmersed into it with a different outlook. Good question, keep 'em coming.

R/

CapnA

[Buffa1oso1di3r]

As a Plebe, what does one rate?

[CapnA]

Not much of anything. The saying goes, you rate what you skate. This means you get whatever you get away with.

R/

CapnA

[Buffa1oso1di3r]

Not much of anything. The saying goes, you rate what you skate. This means you get whatever you get away with.

R/

CapnA

Probably not much, right?

When I think of something else to ask, I'll ask it. Thanks for the answers!

[Buffa1oso1di3r]

Alright, more questions --

Are any books allowed...?

[CapnA]

Pretty much. You won't have a ton of free time to read your own material, but I can't think of anything in particular that was banned from reading. What else ya got?

R/

CapnA