Staff Positions

[Armed Drill Addict]

I am just curious for all current or former NJROTC cadets what staff positions your unit uses. For the end of the year I am going to talk with my SNSI about the issues with staff we have, and where improvements can be made, and I would like to look at some positions that could be beneficial to our unit, also what year and rank that position would typically hold.

Thanks in advance!

[Psybadek]

Hmm let's see how well I remember this

Battalion CO: C/Commander (NS4)
Battalion XO: C/Lt. Commander (NS4)
Company CO: C/Lt. Commander (NS4)
Company XO: C/Lieutenant (NS3)
Operations Officer: C/Lt. Junior Grade (NS3/4)
Administration Officer: C/Lt. Junior Grade (NS3/4)
Supply Officer: C/Ensign (NS3/4)
Public Affairs Officer: C/Lt. Junior Grade (NS3/4)
Battalion/Company Master Chief: C/Master Chief Petty Officer (NS4)
Chaplain: C/ Master Chief Petty Officer (NS2/3/4)
Platoon CO: C/Senior Chief Petty Officer (NS3/4)
Platoon XO: C/Petty Officer 1st Class (NS2/3)
Team CO: C/Chief Petty Officer (NS2/3*)
Team XO: C/Petty Officer 2cnd Class (NS1/2)
Squad Leader: C/Seaman Apprentice (NS1)
Military Ball Coordinator: C/ Chief Petty Officer (NS4**)

*Some positions had the possibility for younger cadet's to have higher responsibility if they had previous experience i.e. Military Schooling, CAP, Young Marines ect ect. It was only a team CO position that they would be available to have a CO position for a NS2. It would normally be reserved for NS3's but not uncommon for NS2's depending on experience.

** The Military Ball Coordinator was always a senior. It was meant to be for the seniors to coordinate as it was "our" ball. Kind of like the senior prom, it was our last ball so a senior would be in charge of coordinating the military ball for that year.

That's from what I remember, I know I'm missing some positions, but it's been nearly 6 year's since I was in NJROTC. All of the ranks we had except for the Company/Battalion/Regiment staff positions ranks varied. Some could be a higher rank when accepting the position.

[Drill for life]

Here's The AJROTC positions:

Battalion Commadner: C/LtCol
Battalion Executive officer: C/Maj
Battalion Sergeant Major: C/CSgtMaj
Battalion Staff:
S-1:C/Cpt
S-2/3:C/Maj
S-4:C/Cpt
S-5:C/Cpt
S-6(ADP):C/Cpt
Commpany Commanders: C/1Lt(or C/Cpt on merit)
Company First Sergeant:C/Sfc-C/1sg

We don't have platoon or squad positions because my unit it to lazy to make it official.

[Psybadek]

Let me ask you something, is the C/Colonel rank rarely used? Like NJROTC we have a C/Captain but it has to be authorized by the area manager for a unit to use it.

[-BuLL-]

Yes, C/Colonel is rarely used. Usually the S-2 is a C/Cpt too as well as Company Commanders. The Company XO is usually a C/1LT. 1SG's are C/1SG's too, not C/SFC. That would be Platoon Sergeant's.

[Psybadek]

OK, I was just wondering. I would see in peoples sig stating they were C/Colonels on this forum, which made it seem more common, but reading some posts about structure sounds like it would contradict that statement. I would presume C/Colonel would be used in Regiments like C/Captain. (Allthough C/Captain is VERY rare, I've never seen a NJROTC unit with a C/Captain, C/Commander was always the highest.)

[Drill for life]

In AJROTC C/Colonel is used for a Brigade Commander(it's usually given to one cadet in a county if there are more than three battalions).

[-BuLL-]

The only C/Colonel's I've seen have been in AFJROTC. Except for Chicago, who has lots of them and even a C/Brigadier General. It just disgusts me.

[Armed Drill Addict]

The only C/Colonel's I've seen have been in AFJROTC. Except for Chicago, who has lots of them and even a C/Brigadier General. It just disgusts me.

That is completely against the rules, it says nowhere in any regulation to designate cadet general ranks, but they also have a cadet rear admiral there too, it's ridiculous.

As for the c/Captain I have seen a few where they have really large units, and the area manager approved them, but it still doesn't call for them in the manual either.

[-BuLL-]

The fact that their instructors allow it is just disgusting. They should be ashamed of themselves. And I'm really surprised cadet command hasn't stopped it.

[Drill for life]

It really isn't there SAI and AI's fault it is there DAI's fault. Up there in Chicago they do things differntly in Cadet program's and not just JROTC. I know that some unit's have scuba school's where they can earn scuba badge. We don't live up there and we shouldn't be judgeing something we don't know about.

[Psybadek]

It really isn't there SAI and AI's fault it is there DAI's fault. Up there in Chicago they do things differntly in Cadet program's and not just JROTC. I know that some unit's have scuba school's where they can earn scuba badge. We don't live up there and we shouldn't be judgeing something we don't know about.

There's a reason there was a field manual written. I know most units wont follow it 100% but I've never seen a unit go outside of it. (ex. adding ranks that don't exist in the cadet programs)

[-BuLL-]

It really isn't there SAI and AI's fault it is there DAI's fault. Up there in Chicago they do things differntly in Cadet program's and not just JROTC. I know that some unit's have scuba school's where they can earn scuba badge. We don't live up there and we shouldn't be judgeing something we don't know about.

I shouldn't judge them because they disobey rules? Please, explain this logic.

[Armed Drill Addict]

This thread has gotten very off topic, I was just hoping to get some information from psybadek, b3rry, and the other NJROTC cadets.

[Psybadek]

This thread has gotten very off topic, I was just hoping to get some information from psybadek, b3rry, and the other NJROTC cadets.

Yes it has. Do you have any questions that I can answer for you?

[13B_Warrior]

I graduated a year ago, here's where my unit stood then:

Company Commander- c/LCDR
Executive Officer- c/LT
Operations Officer- c/LTJG
Platoon Leader- c/ENS
Company SNCO- c/MCPO
Supply Officer- c/CPO***
Ordnance Officer- c/CPO***
Administrative Officer- c/CPO***
Platoon Chief- c/CPO
Guideon- c/PO1
Squad Leader- c/PO2-c/PO1
Team Leader- c/PO3-c/PO2

Class leaders and class chiefs were based on the senior cadet's rank. In certain situations, there would be a senior class leader, class leader, and a class chief. One example would be my NS2&3 class. I was a c/LT, I had a c/ENS (my Cadet OIC from our sister school), and a couple c/CPO's all in one class.

*: Said staff cadets could have made cadet ensign, however the SNSI did not see fit to do so
**: Department chiefs or assistants were either cadet chief or cadet petty officers

The unit did a reorganizing of the staff structure after I graduated. Here is the current layout (to the best of my knowledge):

Company Commander: c/LCDR
Executive Officer: c/LT
Operations Officer: c/LTJG
Company SNCO: c/SCPO

All other ranks and positions are the same.


The unit ranks have varried. During the 1970's, 80's and 90's, and ealry 2000's we were the only unit in the county. We had between three and four big schools making up the brigade/battalion. Since then two school seperated and formed their own units, thus bringing us down to a company sized unit.

As the XO my senior year, my job was the staff. PM if you have any questions.

King of Battle
13B

[C/ B3RRY NJROTC]

Sorry for the delay on the info....But....

My unit doesn't go by rank for staff positions, they go to the best qualified cadet, which I think is the way it should be. It works out better, you don't have people slacking off as much.

We have...

Commanding Officer
Executive Officer
Operations Officer
Administrative Officer
Public Affairs Officer.....That's me...Hahaha :D
Supply Officer
Training Officer
Senior Enlisted Advisor
Drill Commander
Color Guard Commander
Academics Team Commander
Platoon Commanders
Mustering Petty Officers

Those are listed in order of importance. This upcoming year we should be adding Orienteering Team Commander and Rifle Team Commander. We previously had an Orienteering Team, but complicated story, and now we don't have one anymore. Don't know how much this will help, but i hope it does. :D

[SlightlyCatholic]

Those are listed in order of importance.

I don't mean to butt in, but why are billets like Supply and PAO more important than the SEA? I wasn't a NJROTC cadet, but that seems a little weird...

[C/ B3RRY NJROTC]

To be honest with you....I have no clue. SEA is more important(in a normal unit, but ours doesn't really do much so I think that's why he's lower on the chain of command), but the way I have them listed is the way they're listed on our chain of command. :dontgetit:

[flyBoy2010]

[COLOR="Navy"]My unit doesn't go by rank for staff positions, they go to the best qualified cadet, which I think is the way it should be. It works out better, you don't have people slacking off as much.


I don't think that when people listed ranks next to a position that they meant "a cadet must be this rank to have this position." I'm pretty sure it means "this is the maximum rank that a cadet in this position can reach"

[SlightlyCatholic]

To be honest with you....I have no clue. SEA is more important(in a normal unit, but ours doesn't really do much so I think that's why he's lower on the chain of command), but the way I have them listed is the way they're listed on our chain of command. :dontgetit:

I just thought it was odd, since (correct me if I'm wrong) the SEA normally reports straight to the CO as his advisor. Then again, if functionally he's not overly important, the way your CoC is listed would make more sense.

[C/ B3RRY NJROTC]

I don't think that when people listed ranks next to a position that they meant "a cadet must be this rank to have this position." I'm pretty sure it means "this is the maximum rank that a cadet in this position can reach"

Oh Ok, my unit doesn't have any rule like that...So why would a unit put a limit on the max. rank that a cadet in a certain position can reach?

[armysc_25b]

Don't know about other services, but as far as the Army goes, there is a rank that most officers are to hold certain positions. I've never met a COL that commanded a battalion, or a 2LT who commanded a company. In my old AJROTC program, our staff's rank caps emulated that of it's comparable position in the "real Army."

Battalion Commander: c/LTC
Battalion XO: c/MAJ
Battalion CSM: c/CSM
Battalion S3: c/MAJ
Battalion S1, S2, S4 thru S6: c/CPT
Company Commanders: c/CPT
Company XO's: c/1LT
Company 1SG's: c/1SG
Company PLT SGT's: c/SFC

We had other positions as well, but that primarily depended on the number of senior cadets we had those years (large senior class with a high number of cadet officers as well as juniors who were junior cadet officers). For example, I held a position called Aide dé Camp, which is typically a General Officer's aide. In this case, I was a special assistant and advisor to the SAI and Battalion Commander, and my rank was capped at c/MAJ, and this was prior to me moving into the Battalion XO's slot.

[C/SSGT Seifer]

Here's The AJROTC positions:

Battalion Commadner: C/LtCol
Battalion Executive officer: C/Maj
Battalion Sergeant Major: C/CSgtMaj
Battalion Staff:
S-1:C/Cpt
S-2/3:C/Maj
S-4:C/Cpt
S-5:C/Cpt
S-6(ADP):C/Cpt
Commpany Commanders: C/1Lt(or C/Cpt on merit)
Company First Sergeant:C/Sfc-C/1sg

We don't have platoon or squad positions because my unit it to lazy to make it official.

I'm a little to this topic, but D4L didn't say what each staff position what and just gave abbreviation. Let me elaborate
S-1= Adjutant
S-2= Information and Security
S-3= Operations
S-4= Logistics and supplies
S-5= Special Projects
JROTC units do not generally have an S-6, however his battalion has found some use for them
S-6= Communications/IT

[Psybadek]

thanks C/SSGT, that actually helps because I never knew what those meant haha