Will the Navy like my Army JROTC history?

[jimmy]

I have my heart set on joining NROTC in college then going into the Navy, but I was wondering if it will be beneficial to have Army JROTC on my record instead of Navy JROTC, because there is only Army at my High School. Do they prefer Navy or not care? Will it set me ahead from others if I try for the scholarship?

[Buffa1oso1di3r]

JROTC is JROTC, for the most part. I'm an AJROTC Cadet trying for an NROTC Scholarship, and quite frankly, I don't think it makes a difference.

It may not set you ahead, but, if your academics are strong, it shouldn't matter.

[Airbourne Infantry]

In addition, joining any form of JROTC will be beneficial. It'll teach you the traditions and courtesies of the military in general as well as teach you a lot of things that you'll end up learning anyway in NROTC. Not to say that JROTC and ROTC are in any way similar, but getting the mind-set and enthusiasm for the military will help. Good luck.

[TruBlu]

It doesn't hurt you as much as you may think. All branches respect 'service' as a cadet no matter what service they may have been affiliated with. I'm not a recruiter, but last I heard was that the branches recognize all cadet programs, but it's the time in them that matters. In example: The Army will promote you to E-3 when you have completed 1 year of JROTC and then enlisted. On the other hand, the Air Force will require 3 years of JROTC to receive the same pay grade. Not so sure about the Navy, MC, or CG, you will want to speak with a recruiter or scholarship officer about that. Have no fear, if you've put the time in you're good to go!

[Drill for life]

The Navy and the Coast Guard will give you E-3 after three (count them three) years of JROTC.
The Marine Corps will give you E-2 after three years.

[armysc_25b]

It doesn't hurt you as much as you may think. All branches respect 'service' as a cadet no matter what service they may have been affiliated with. I'm not a recruiter, but last I heard was that the branches recognize all cadet programs, but it's the time in them that matters. In example: The Army will promote you to E-3 when you have completed 1 year of JROTC and then enlisted. On the other hand, the Air Force will require 3 years of JROTC to receive the same pay grade. Not so sure about the Navy, MC, or CG, you will want to speak with a recruiter or scholarship officer about that. Have no fear, if you've put the time in you're good to go!
It takes four years JROTC to enlist as a PFC in the US Army.

[TruBlu]

It takes four years JROTC to enlist as a PFC in the US Army.

Not according to the Army recruiters in my town. It takes one credit, at least that's what the 'honest' recruiters say to my peers and I.

[armysc_25b]

OK, I need to find an official source on this one, since I don't remember from personal experience and another site I just looked at said three years will get you PFC. But I promise you, it is not one year.

[TruBlu]

No official source, and after digging, it has to be three years... Goes to show what some of these recruiters are capable of saying...

[DoubleHelix]

OK, I need to find an official source on this one, since I don't remember from personal experience and another site I just looked at said three years will get you PFC. But I promise you, it is not one year.

It was listed in our AFJROTC LE-1 books, somewhere near the front. With three years of JROTC completed (and proof of completion) you were supposed to be promoted to E-3. I doubt it was a mandatory clause though. I think it'd be along the lines of promotion for being an Eagle Scout wouldn't it?

[armysc_25b]

If I remember right, and again it's been a few years, it's entirely up to your instructor as to whether they recommend you for E-2 or E-3 (if your choice service allows it). I'd have to dig through my "I Love Me" book to find it, but I'm pretty sure the certificate actually states something along the lines of "recommend for promotion to ___".

[MP_Girl]

I have a source:

http://usmilitary.about.com/od/armyjoin/a/advancedrank.htm

As Quoted:

Advanced Paygrade of E-2 (PV2) is authorized for an applicant who:

* Has completed 1 or 2 years of Junior ROTC (JROTC) or a National Defense Cadet Corps (NDCC) Program.

* Has attended any U.S. military service academy or U.S. military academy preparatory school for 179 days or fewer (or at grade determined by amount of college credit completed, whichever is greater).

* Has successfully completed 24 or more classroom semester hours (36 or more quarter hours) at an accredited degree granting college or university listed in the AIPE* or NACES* (foreign transcripts must be evaluated).

* Has completed all phase II requirements of the Air Force Civil Air Patrol and has been awarded the Billy Mitchell Award.

* Has taken part in the Naval Sea Cadet Corps (NSCC) and has been awarded Quartermaster Award (Certificate).

* Has been awarded the Boy Scout Eagle certificate as a member of the Boy Scouts of America (Form 58-708).

* Has earned the Girl Scout Gold award certificate as a member of the Girl Scouts of America.

* Has completed Army pre-Basic Training task list as a member of Delayed Enlistment Program (DEP) or Delayed Training Program (DTP). Note: If member is already entitled to advanced grade of E-2, completion of the task list entitles the member for advancement to the paygrade of E-3.

Advanced Paygrade of E-3 (PFC) is authorized for an applicant who:

* Has completed 3 or more years of JROTC or a NDCC Program.

* Has completed 1 year of Senior ROTC (SROTC).

* Has successfully completed 48 or more classroom semester hours (72 or more quarter hours) (without a 4-year degree) at an accredited degree granting college or university listed in the AIPE* (foreign transcripts must be evaluated. This includes those with associate degrees.

* Has successfully completed 2 or more academic years of a postsecondary vocational-technical school and has received a certificate of training attesting to successful completion of the course. The school must be listed in the AIPE*.

Advanced Paygrade of E-4 (SPC) is authorized for an applicant who:

* Has successfully completed a degree-producing college program of 4 years duration and the college or university which is listed in the AIPE* (and has been awarded a bachelor’s or higher degree) (foreign degrees and transcripts must be evaluated). Advanced promotion is authorized if college or university provides a letter stating the applicant has met all requirements for a degree, but it will not be awarded until commencement ceremony.


There you go!

[DoubleHelix]

There you have it. Nice find.

It's interesting to see the comparisons of what could authorize an advance in grade like that. Kinda makes you feel a little lucky to have been a part of the program.

[TruBlu]

Thanks MP Girl for clearing that up.

[skf_atc]

The NSCC you don't get unless you obtained E-3 in the cadet corps. There is no Quartermaster Award. That's some other program. The NSCC doesn't base what paygrade you'll receive (E-2 or E-3) on an award.
I got my E-3 in the Navy because of obtaining minimum E-3 in the NSCC (I came out as an E-7) and I was also in AFJROTC and completed 4 years.

From the boot camp aspect, when you fill out your hardcard, it'll ask for any JROTC, NSCC, CAP, etc experience. That's the only time they'll care about it. I know I just kept mostly in the background, didn't mention that I was a prior cadet, and the only leadership position I held was the Mail PO for the entire ship (barracks).

[jimmy]

Thanks for all the great advice. I've heard from my school counselor (who was in the Air Force) that JROTC is a plus if you're applying for the ROTC, no matter what service. I'm probably going to try for the scholarship. Of course this will be in a few years, but I want to be prepared.

[cscsmp]

My high school had NJROTC but I wasn't a member. Still had no problem getting an AROTC scholarship, but then again I'm in a much smaller battalion. I do have a buddy who was in the NJROTC program and I know got a scholarship for AROTC in the Big Red Battalion. Any military training of any kind is definitely a plus, but like someone said earlier don't think the two programs are the same by any means.

[jimmy]

Oh I'm sure that JROTC and ROTC are very different. JROTC is just to teach leadership skills, ROTC is to prepare you for a military career in the most basic way. At least, according to my counselor.

[RLM10_2_06]

Just a thought...am I the only one who finds it priceless that they offer Specialist to somebody with a bachelors? If I had a bachelors, I'd be signing up for OCS! That said, I'd take ROTC while earning it, so...

[armysc_25b]

Not everyone wants to be, or is cut out to be, an officer. If I am not accepted into the Warrant Officer program when the time comes, I won't take whatever degree I hold and apply for OCS; I personally will remain enlisted. It's a matter of choice, and with certain choices come certain benefits. Of course, not every Bachelor's Degree holding individual should come into the Army as a SPC, but that's another story...

[rockymartin21]

I agree. It doesn't hurt to get the experiences.

[Billyd]

I agree. It doesn't hurt to get the experiences.

And you are? Please fill out your profile so that we may know what experience you are bringing to the table.

[JohnP]

Just a thought...am I the only one who finds it priceless that they offer Specialist to somebody with a bachelors? If I had a bachelors, I'd be signing up for OCS! That said, I'd take ROTC while earning it, so...

As with everything else in the military, it is the needs of the service. I worked with Security Policeman in 1977 with a BA in Liberal Arts. He was an E-4.

I am friends with a local college professor that was drafted with 2 others in 1969; he was the dumbest of the 3, he only had a Masters in History. The other two just completed their PHD thesis. All three were sent to Viet Nam as enlisted MPs.

[Psybadek]

Keep in mind, not everyone who joins the military has a desire to be an officer. I've known many people with degree's who prefered being enlisted.

[Saint Marc]

I was in JROTC in HS and was Army and went AD into the Navy and was put in as an E-3.
The Army ROTC you have is good, all the services are built on the same foundations of rank and discipline and drill. Just a few minor changes and plus different histories and missions.
Army JROTC won't hurt you in the Navy. Hell land navigation alone will help you depending on rate along with the regular PT you do or we did in my time. You'll show up in shape.