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HairyEyeball
09-19-2008, 05:04 PM
The PBS (perennial b.s.?) has a short video on Sarah Palin on their website. Also included is a poll that asks: Is Sarah Palin qualified to be VP?

Apparently, people other than liberals have discovered it: In under an hour, it's gone from 33% percent YES - 67% NO to 53% YES - 42% NO 5% I don't understand the question.

You don't have to give your name or email address in order to vote - it's simple enough for a Mikey Moore-on to use.

Find it at: http://www.pbs.org/now/polls/poll-435.html

SlightlyCatholic
09-19-2008, 06:35 PM
I just voted. Now it's 55% Yes, 39% No, and 4% Not Sure. Making progress!

FeelinFroggy
09-20-2008, 03:46 AM
I voted as well.

The tally reads: 63% Yay....32% Nay....and 3% for "why did they even bother."

PaulR
09-20-2008, 08:32 AM
Now it is:

53% Yes
43% No
2% Not sure

C.A.P. Flight Officer
09-21-2008, 10:34 PM
What are your thoughts? :mp:

C/RA89
09-21-2008, 10:46 PM
she deffinately is qualified.

FeelinFroggy
09-21-2008, 10:58 PM
she deffinately is qualified. Please enlighten me as to why you believe she is qualified.

armysc_25b
09-21-2008, 10:59 PM
she deffinately is qualified.
C/RA89, why is she qualified? I vowed to stay out of this forum because I don't do politics, but if the 18+ cadets are going to post here, you and the rest of your group need to make posts more elaborate than this.

pingjocky
09-21-2008, 11:08 PM
Anyone else notice that the poll is actually hosted by NOW? Of course they are trying to cause dissent by asking an obviously leading question like that. They endorse a b1tch like the Hildebeast because she got to where she is by lieing(sp), cheating, stealing, and riding the coattails of Bill....whereas they hate a truly independent woman like Palin because she is ethically moral.

R/
Pingjocky

p.s. where the heck is that damnable "Spellcheck" button???

sfcgragg
09-22-2008, 09:01 AM
Please enlighten me as to why you believe she is qualified.

This is pretty much a loaded question due to it’s ambiguity… But I’ll attempt at an answer that will qualify.
If you are looking for concise and succinct answers to your question, this is the best (I believe) anyone can do.

Governor Palin is the only candidate with any (governmental) executive experience of any kind (on either ticket). Now, does this qualify her to be vice-president? Answer- Yes!

She, legally, is as qualified to be vice-president or even president as anyone running for the office (you can check the qualifications on your own time… My time is taken right now). So the answer here is also Yes!

So, due to the vagueness of the question posed, this is the simplest and most straight forward answer I can give you. It is irrefutable and therefore illogical for you to argue against, but if you wish to do so, by all means, be my guest. …But if you want to get into the facts (sans the petty party bickering and rhetoric) of the issue, I would be more than happy to do so (as my time permits)…

sfcgragg
09-22-2008, 09:05 AM
Anyone else notice that the poll is actually hosted by NOW? Of course they are trying to cause dissent by asking an obviously leading question like that. They endorse a b1tch like the Hildebeast because she got to where she is by lieing(sp), cheating, stealing, and riding the coattails of Bill....whereas they hate a truly independent woman like Palin because she is ethically moral.

R/
Pingjocky

p.s. where the heck is that damnable "Spellcheck" button???

Ethic morality will always be the bane of the liberal elitists’…. Any party that says is okay to murder the innocent unborn will always scurry from the light…

sfcgragg
09-22-2008, 02:11 PM
Well I sure am glad you got that off your chest. The big bold words, underlining, and red lettering really jumped off the page. Hurt my eyes a little.

I don't discuss my opinioins on religion or politics do to the simple fact I hate bickering back and forth. You believe my "question" to be vague. Well yes, that was the point due to the vagueness of "C/RA89" statement.

You seem to want an argument when all I wanted was an explanation fit for such an "ambiguous" statement.

That is all. Good day.

This was not an argument my friend, it was a simple answer to an overtly ambiguous question. And I wasn't taking sides, I included both sides in the statement (you may want to re-read it, as long as it doesn't hurt your eyes)....

It gets more than a little tiring when someone asks a loaded question in a vague manner. So I answered it in a simplistic manner! And I did so in a logical and cogent fashion.

Sarah Palin is no less qualified than Barak Obama, Joe Biden or John McCain, when it comes to being elected in the position she is running for. And to suggest otherwise is nothing more that pandering to partisan politics.

Also, if you don’t like the answer, either defend it in an intelligent manner, or don’t ask it. But please don’t ask a question of a political nature, then say “I don’t discuss opinions on religion or politics”. Because you just did! And therefore begged your own question…

“enlighten me as to why you believe she is qualified”…. And I did so.. If you don’t want to be enlightened, don’t ask to be so enlightened…

Billyd
09-22-2008, 02:22 PM
At ease, gentlemen. FeelinFroggy was requesting that a cadet support his statement about Govenor Palin being qualified to hold the office of VP. In light that this forum is for DISCUSSION and not just blanket statements, I agree that C/RA89 needs to support his assertion that she deffinately is qualified..

C/RA89, and all other cadets that venture into these shark filled waters, you are REQUIRED to support your assertions with facts.

03_SHOOTER
09-22-2008, 06:10 PM
At ease, gentlemen. FeelinFroggy was requesting that a cadet support his statement about Govenor Palin being qualified to hold the office of VP. In light that this forum is for DISCUSSION and not just blanket statements, I agree that C/RA89 needs to support his assertion that .

C/RA89, and all other cadets that venture into these shark filled waters, you are REQUIRED to support your assertions with facts.
:blueberet:
Thanks Billyd, good call. :)

Gentlemen, please refer to the Rules of the Political Forum.

As far as whether or not any of the candidates in "qualified" to run for POTUS/VPOTUS, the Constitution of the United States clearly enumerates those qualifications. As to whether or not you consider any of the candidates to be the most qualified person to lead this country at this time however is a matter of personal opinion, and as such, in the interest of a good conversation, and as a matter of simple common courtesy, you are expected to elucidate what those reasons may be.

PaulR
09-22-2008, 06:14 PM
She, legally, is as qualified to be vice-president or even president as anyone running for the office (you can check the qualifications on your own time… My time is taken right now). So the answer here is also Yes!


It cannot be explained any more succinctly and with simpler wordage than that!! :flag: The fact that she has executive experience sort of makes her the MOST qualified of the entire lot, as neither Senators Biden, Obama or McCain have any at all.

FeelinFroggy
09-22-2008, 06:18 PM
How do the votes read now?

PaulR
09-22-2008, 06:24 PM
The margin is narrowing:

Yes 51%
No 47%
Not Sure 0%

I really do not like this style of polling because people can go back and vote as often and as much as they like.

sfcgragg
09-23-2008, 03:41 PM
It cannot be explained any more succinctly and with simpler wordage than that!! :flag: The fact that she has executive experience sort of makes her the MOST qualified of the entire lot, as neither Senators Biden, Obama or McCain have any at all.

Thanks my friend, that was the point I was making :salute:

mtnsldr
09-26-2008, 09:38 AM
49 split right now.

SGM
09-26-2008, 10:15 AM
The way I look at it, she is just as qualified to be VP as Bill Clinton was to be President. If I remember right, he didn't know much about international affairs to begin with, and he was the one who had to take the bull by the horns.

With that said, a good leader doesn't necessarly need to know everything, but that leader needs to know his/her strengths and weeknesses, how to use the strengths of the people around him/her to complete the mission. That leader also needs to know where to find the answers for him/her self as well.

sfcgragg
09-26-2008, 11:09 AM
The way I look at it, she is just as qualified to be VP as Bill Clinton was to be President. If I remember right, he didn't know much about international affairs to begin with, and he was the one who had to take the bull by the horns.

With that said, a good leader doesn't necessarly need to know everything, but that leader needs to know his/her strengths and weeknesses, how to use the strengths of the people around him/her to complete the mission. That leader also needs to know where to find the answers for him/her self as well.

All good points SMG, and, although I don't agree with MOST of Pres Clintons political views (or personel for that matter) he did do some good things...

Having said that, I gave a lecture/class to a group of cadre NCO's this morning on the Army Values System. In preperation of this class I was reviewing my notes, and it struck me as funny (and sad at the same time) that had more of our national leadership adhered to these values (or any value system whatsoever) we wouldn't have the economic messes (Enron-Fannie mae/Freddy mac) we face today :mad:

SGM
09-26-2008, 12:37 PM
I myself never held much respect for Pres Billy, I even had to reenlist under his watch(made me shiver).

Holy Cow - Political leader adhear to the Army Values!!! If that was so, Washington would be empty!!!!

No one would want the job because they would have to think of others before themselves, before their money gains, before their planned retirements - it might just lead to some leaders who think of themselves as Americans working for the People!!!

sfcgragg
09-26-2008, 01:07 PM
I myself never held much respect for Pres Billy, I even had to reenlist under his watch(made me shiver).

I never said I had respect for him :o


Holy Cow - Political leader adhear to the Army Values!!! If that was so, Washington would be empty!!!! :D


No one would want the job because they would have to think of others before themselves, before their money gains, before their planned retirements - it might just lead to some leaders who think of themselves as Americans working for the People!!!

Too True

dukesix
09-30-2008, 11:25 AM
Not to mention that BOTH Bill Clinton AND Barack Obama would FAIL a FBI back ground check. But when you have media momentum and a steadfast refusal to cooperate...you can just about do anything you want.......including becoming President.