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Delta Farce
09-19-2008, 02:33 PM
This is my second year in JROTC and I am already company comander with the rank of c/Captain. I made the largest jump in rank in the last 15 years at my school. I was a c/SSG.

:sniper:

PhilK
09-19-2008, 02:58 PM
This is my second year in JROTC and I am already company comander with the rank of captain. I made the largest jump in rank in the last 15 years at my school. I was a SSG.



Correction you are a C/CPT and you were a C/SSG.

And in answer to your question, it took me about 6 years to become a Troop Commander.

C/SSGT Seifer
09-20-2008, 12:30 PM
I am a c/ssgt and I was a c/pvt. I am a let 2.

PhilK
09-20-2008, 02:09 PM
I am a c/ssgt and I was a c/pvt. I am a let 2.

Drop the "T", it is only C/SSG and you were either a C/PV1, PV2 or PFC, no such thing as a "pvt"

The Army uses a three letter designator (except for two General ranks, BG and MG)

It goes like so:

PV1
PV2
PFC
SPC
CPL
SGT
SSG
SFC
MSG
1SG
SGM
CSM

WO1
CW2
CW3
CW4
CW5

2LT
1LT
CPT
MAJ
LTC
COL
BG
MG
LTG
GEN

And now you know...

Drill for life
10-07-2008, 07:33 PM
I am a Company Commander but I do our S-5 and our ADP job's. I will be given the rank of C/captain at our Appointment Ceremony. Oh by the way Congrats on the promotion.

Colts23
05-31-2009, 11:57 AM
It took me about 2 1/2 year. Currently I am a C/MAJ

soccermark23
05-31-2009, 12:41 PM
Drop the "T", it is only C/SSG and you were either a C/PV1, PV2 or PFC, no such thing as a "pvt"

The Army uses a three letter designator (except for two General ranks, BG and MG)

It goes like so:

PV1
PV2
PFC
SPC
CPL
SGT
SSG
SFC
MSG
1SG
SGM
CSM

WO1
CW2
CW3
CW4
CW5

2LT
1LT
CPT
MAJ
LTC
COL
BG
MG
LTG
GEN

And now you know...

And knowing is half the battle!

Psybadek
05-31-2009, 06:00 PM
Drop the "T", it is only C/SSG and you were either a C/PV1, PV2 or PFC, no such thing as a "pvt"

The Army uses a three letter designator (except for two General ranks, BG and MG)

It goes like so:

PV1
PV2
PFC
SPC
CPL
SGT
SSG
SFC
MSG
1SG
SGM
CSM

WO1
CW2
CW3
CW4
CW5

2LT
1LT
CPT
MAJ
LTC
COL
BG
MG
LTG
GEN

And now you know...

I'd hate to correct you PhilK, but there is a PVT, not a PV1, and that's on the Army website

PhilK
05-31-2009, 07:26 PM
I'd hate to correct you PhilK, but there is a PVT, not a PV1, and that's on the Army website

Can you provide a link?

Here is the Army Ranks at Army.mil (http://www.army.mil/symbols/armyranks.html)

Psybadek
05-31-2009, 07:52 PM
Can you provide a link?

Here is the Army Ranks at Army.mil (http://www.army.mil/symbols/armyranks.html)

I was on the Goarmy website

http://www.goarmy.com/about/ranks_and_insignia.jsp

on the Army.mil site if you go here: http://www.army.mil/symbols/Enlisteddescriptions.html

You can see it as PVT there also

Edit: I've been doing some research and on multiple websites, I see it being referred to as PVT and PV1. I can't find anything that says either one if the official usage, and seeing as on the army.mil website they have PVT and PV1, i can only presume both are correct. I'll keep searching though, I'd like to know for sure.

armysc_25b
05-31-2009, 09:40 PM
Table 1-1 of AR 600-20, Army Command Policy (http://www.army.mil/usapa/epubs/pdf/r600_20.pdf) lists the abbreviation for an E-1 as PV1. That said, it also lists the abbreviation for Specialist as SP4, with this note: Specialist and its abbreviation (SPC) will be used in written correspondence. All Standard Installation/Division Personnel System (SIDPERS) transactions must be coded and entered using the preset code (SP4) until SIDPERS III is fielded.

Psybadek
05-31-2009, 10:19 PM
So why is it on their own website they have it listed as PVT and PV1? That doesn't explain it

armysc_25b
05-31-2009, 10:26 PM
Beats the crap out of me. Could be something that's changing with the SIDPERS III fielding as well as the SPC/SP4 thing. Could be something they do just to show a difference (though PVT/PV1 has no insignia, so explaining it in the same statement as PV2 with the "no insignia" caveat is useless to me). Could be they just don't care enough to follow the currently published regulation.

pouge tanker
06-01-2009, 12:02 PM
I was on the Goarmy website

http://www.goarmy.com/about/ranks_and_insignia.jsp

on the Army.mil site if you go here: http://www.army.mil/symbols/Enlisteddescriptions.html

You can see it as PVT there also

Edit: I've been doing some research and on multiple websites, I see it being referred to as PVT and PV1. I can't find anything that says either one if the official usage, and seeing as on the army.mil website they have PVT and PV1, i can only presume both are correct. I'll keep searching though, I'd like to know for sure.

it is groovy either way...besides, unless you screw the pooch...your only a PVT (PV1) for what? three or four months?? six at the most

C/SSGT Seifer
06-01-2009, 03:27 PM
Drop the "T", it is only C/SSG and you were either a C/PV1, PV2 or PFC, no such thing as a "pvt"

The Army uses a three letter designator (except for two General ranks, BG and MG)

It goes like so:

PV1
PV2
PFC
SPC
CPL
SGT
SSG
SFC
MSG
1SG
SGM
CSM

WO1
CW2
CW3
CW4
CW5

2LT
1LT
CPT
MAJ
LTC
COL
BG
MG
LTG
GEN

And now you know...
Actually, in the cadet ranks there is. It goes from c/Basic to c/ Private. There is no Private without insignia. If I was talking about enlisted Army ranks than you would have been correct, so I thank you for the correction. Quick update, I am now C/MSG Assistant s-4. I am a LET 2. Also, all the C/CPT's and C/1sg in my battalion are LET2's as well. But that is because all of the old one's were fired (LET4's) and we don't have many LET3's.

armysc_25b
06-01-2009, 04:12 PM
Actually, in the cadet ranks there is. It goes from c/Basic to c/Private. There is no c/Private without insignia.

I hate to side with cadets who don't cite their sources on the information they provide, but for once I have to side with the cadet who didn't cite the source on the statement he made (of course after all grammar corrections are made).

(9) Cadet Private First Class. One chevron above one bar.
(10) Cadet Private. One chevron.
(11) Cadet Basic. No insignia of grade.

C/SSGT Seifer
06-01-2009, 08:53 PM
I hate to side with cadets who don't cite their sources on the information they provide, but for once I have to side with the cadet who didn't cite the source on the statement he made (of course after all grammar corrections are made).

Sorry about the mistakes, fixing them now. Also, if you want a source, I can refer you to this very website. http://www.gruntsmilitary.com/ajrotcrank1.shtml
C/Basic is not shown here as it has no insignia (it is equal to a PV1.)

armysc_25b
06-01-2009, 09:35 PM
There's one problem with that source. It's NOT a regulation. Just like the other sites linked to in this thread, even though they're on the Army's "official" websites, they aren't the regulation. AR 600-20 & CCR 145-2 give the guidance for the "real Army" and JROTC when it comes to the ranks.

C/SSGT Seifer
06-02-2009, 03:25 PM
I see. Found it in CC 145-2, it is at 10-13 chapter b. It is a list of all of the cadet ranks.
b. Grades. Grades will be indicated on the shoulder epaulet sleeve as follows. See Figure 10-7.
(1) Cadet Sergeant Major. Three chevrons above three bars with a star within a wreath between the chevrons and bars.
(2) Cadet Staff Sergeant Major. Three chevrons above three bars with a star between the chevrons and bars.
(3) Cadet First Sergeant. Three chevrons above three bars with a diamond between the chevrons and bars.
(4) Cadet Master Sergeant. Three chevrons above three bars.
(5) Cadet Sergeant First Class. Three chevrons above two bars.
(6) Cadet Staff Sergeant. Three chevrons above one bar.
(7) Cadet Sergeant. Three chevrons.
(8) Cadet Corporal. Two chevrons.
(9) Cadet Private First Class. One chevron above one bar.
(10) Cadet Private. One chevron.
(11) Cadet Basic. No insignia of grade.
They also have a picture of all the ranks right below.

PhilK
06-02-2009, 03:43 PM
Now, here is a question for the group.....what are the abreviations for the ranks?

Psybadek
06-02-2009, 04:16 PM
I see. Found it in CC 145-2, it is at 10-13 chapter b. It is a list of all of the cadet ranks.

They also have a picture of all the ranks right below.

This is the problem I have with this. In the same regulation just scroll down a little bit, you will see the Sgt Major ranks named differently. One way as you put it, and different in the pictures below. It makes it difficult to follow regulation when the regulation isn't consistent.

(I only checked because C/Staff Sergeant Major just sounded absurd. But in the names above it is called that, but below with the pictures it's called C/Command Sergeant Major)

C/SSGT Seifer
06-03-2009, 03:30 PM
That is odd, is it really that hard to remember a name used just inches above?

Psybadek
06-03-2009, 08:48 PM
You wouldn't think so, I don't see how they could forget it that quickly.

lufo4
06-15-2009, 03:38 PM
Cadet rank abbreviations differ slightly from Army ranks

in the Army, you have PV1 which is an E-1, whereas in the JROTC, you startout as a PVT, which is an E-2, AJROTC does not have an E-1 rank, as far as i know, i just got finished remembering my ranks, i transfered from NJROTC to AJROTC so ive relearned my knowledge. one week and i know more than most people in my battalion

-BuLL-
06-15-2009, 03:58 PM
In my unit, we have PV1 ranks. Very few and you don't really start out as it, but we have PV1 ranks.

armysc_25b
06-15-2009, 04:29 PM
Cadet rank abbreviations differ slightly from Army ranks

in the Army, you have PV1 which is an E-1, whereas in the JROTC, you startout as a PVT, which is an E-2, AJROTC does not have an E-1 rank, as far as i know, i just got finished remembering my ranks, i transfered from NJROTC to AJROTC so ive relearned my knowledge. one week and i know more than most people in my battalion

You're right, thanks for telling us about something we've been discussing for the last couple pages. :sleepy: As far as the ranks go, yes there is a rank comparable to what an E-1 in the "real Army" would be. Suggest you reference the quoted regulation on the previous page of this thread for more information. Oh, and since you're new, welcome, now please fix your grammar, preface all indications of cadet rank with c/, no paygrades for cadets, and fix your avatar so it displays cadet rank insignia instead of that of my E-4 NCO counterparts. Have a nice day.

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To answer the original question, as an AJROTC cadet, I was never a Company Commander. My time in company leadership positions was limited (I was a 1SG for a week, only because of a technicality, before I moved to staff, and dual-hatted as S-6 and C CO XO in which I had very few responsibilities). That said, if I had to give anything a comparision as far as command time goes, I was the Drill Team Commander my senior year, which is the closest thing I had to command.

C/SSGT Seifer
06-15-2009, 08:00 PM
To answer the original question, as an AJROTC cadet, I was never a Company Commander. My time in company leadership positions was limited (I was a 1SG for a week, only because of a technicality, before I moved to staff, and dual-hatted as S-6 and C CO XO in which I had very few responsibilities). That said, if I had to give anything a comparision as far as command time goes, I was the Drill Team Commander my senior year, which is the closest thing I had to command.

What are the duties of the S-6? In my battalion we only go up to S-5. I am currently Assistant S-4 as well as my old position of Platoon Sargent (until the board chooses the replacements.)

PhilK
06-15-2009, 08:14 PM
In an actual BN your S-6 would be your Signal Officer, they handle communications and is usually the XO's "special project" guy.

C/SSGT Seifer
06-16-2009, 10:05 PM
Thank you, in my battalion that is usually done by the S-5 and S-2. The S-2 is our, "IT guy," and the S-5 is our, "special projects guy," which usually consists of recruitment, recruitment videos, and arranging for reps from the Armed Forces to come down and tell us their stories occasionally.