Modern Liberalism is Nazism wearing a new name.

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That's right, I said it, modern Liberalism (Socialism) in America is nothing more and nothing less than Nazism given a new name, and a new face in order to disguise it's true origins. The "green" movement, "Holistic" medicine, anti-smoking movement, the rabid slanders against anyone who challenges the accepted "wisdom" (AGW for instance), vegetarianism, the "separation of church and state", and all the rest of the hallmarks of the modern Liberal movement ALL have their genesis in National Socialism (Nazism).

Watch the following if you doubt it.

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[Buffa1oso1di3r]

I'll watch the videos once I get out of school, however, one thing that I wanted to get off of my chest over the Nazism debate...

Post-Treaty of Versailles Germany was in the hole economically, militarily, and crime was through the roof.

The Nazi's take power, and Germany becomes an economic and military powerhouse, a world power to be feared.

What is wrong with Nazism? (And the fact that they're nationalist-socialist doesn't work either, as only with Nazism has socialism worked).

[Woody]

I'll watch the videos once I get out of school, however, one thing that I wanted to get off of my chest over the Nazism debate...

Post-Treaty of Versailles Germany was in the hole economically, militarily, and crime was through the roof.

The Nazi's take power, and Germany becomes an economic and military powerhouse, a world power to be feared.

What is wrong with Nazism? (And the fact that they're nationalist-socialist doesn't work either, as only with Nazism has socialism worked).

The holocaust ring any bells ? A corrupt and inefficent government that papered over the cracks with violence and smart uniforms .

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What is wrong with Nazism? (And the fact that they're nationalist-socialist doesn't work either, as only with Nazism has socialism worked).

You are joking aren't you? What's wrong with Nazism? Seriously, you ARE joking aren't you?

[Woody]

              Is gitmo filled with  meat eaters and American gun owners ? Are those rendition flights filled  inteligent design belivers and pro life advocates ? If so yes liberals are behaving like Nazis .If there not  then they arent nazis .Slander and lies about your poltical opponents are part of poltics and indulged in by all sides .

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Liberals shout and get upset when people challange their views much like every other human being ever.
Dont know of anyone being dragged off to a death camp for smoking or eating red meat or thinking new age thinking is nuts .
Republicians like big business and the military so did the nazis
omg the republicans are the new nazis .:D:D

Except that you forgot about the fact that the Nazi's HATED big business, and actually nationalized it, much as the Liberals are doing today. The only use the Nazi's had for the military was imperialism, which is something that the US has never done before (it's not like we couldn't have taken Canada any time we wanted it).

No, the Liberals are the Nazi's (YUP, I said it) as everything they do, or are trying to do is nothing but copying the Nazi's. Hell, GCA '68 which was imposed on the American people by Chris Dodd's father is all but a direct copy of the Nazi gun control laws! Nobody has been drug off to death camps for smoking or eating red meat (yet), but give it time.

[Buffa1oso1di3r]

You are joking aren't you? What's wrong with Nazism? Seriously, you ARE joking aren't you?

I am joking, however, my point still stands, it did help out Germany's economy before World War II... (although it later led to the separation of Germany into two separate countries).

(I don't believe in Nazism, however, nor do I agree with the Holocaust, Germany's invasion of Poland and annexation of the Sudetenland/Austria/that one part of France that's about 20 miles long. Just pointing out a slight historical fact).

[Rabbit]

it did help out Germany's economy before World War II... Yes. But, women weren't included in the unemployment statistics. Jews lost their citizenship rights and were no longer considered unemployed. If you were unemployed you either did the work given to you or it was off to a concentration camp. Many young men were forced to spend time in the army and were taken off the unemployment figure. This did create jobs, but those jobs were used to create weapons, military vehicles...etc(wonder why?).

Source:http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/nazis_and_the_german_economy.htm

So...with all these policies in place, it was inevitable that the unemployment rate would change and "boost the ecomomy" for war.

[Buffa1oso1di3r]

Very true. I overlooked those facts (big surprise there, eh?)

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************* Is gitmo filled with* meat eaters and American gun owners ? Are those rendition flights filled* inteligent design belivers and pro life advocates ?*If so yes liberals are behaving like Nazis .If there not* then they arent nazis .Slander and lies about your poltical opponents are part of poltics and indulged in by all sides .

timwoodhead, I would suggest that you do a bit of research into the Nazi Party platform, and compare it to the modern Democrat Party platform, they're nearly IDENTICAL! But then again, the elder Dodd did copy, almost verbatim (with the exception of having it translated into English) the Nazi gun ban in GCA '68!

Perhaps you've never heard of a now little known figure in the early Nazi Party by the name of Gregor Strasser? He was the NSDAP Reich Leader for Propaganda from 1928 until 1932, and it was he who said "We are Socialists. We are the enemies, deadly enemies, of today's capitalist system with it's economic exploitation of the weak, it's unfair wage system, it's immoral way of judging the worth of a human being in terms of their worth and money." The speech that first drew Hitler to the Nazi's (while he was still in the Army) was a speech entitled "How and by what means is capitalism to be eliminated?" given by Gottfried Feder on September 12, 1919.

Aspects of the Nazi Party platform include;

1) guaranteed jobs (Unions)
2) abolition of income not earned by work (take the money from those "greedy" CEO's)
3) nationalization of all large corporations and trusts (TARP anyone?)
4) profit sharing in all major industries
5) expanded old age insurance (Social Security)
6) gov't takeover of big business and stores (TARP anyone?)
7) purge the authority of the church and tradition from society and replace it with the supremacy of the State. (separation of church and state anyone?)
8) impose the dictates of a new political correctness of a fundamentally pagan faith (do I REALLY need to explain that one?)
9) confiscation of "war profits" (Halliburton anyone?)
10) prevention of speculation in land (those 'greedy' CEO's again)
11) "Common national criminals, usurers, profiteers and so forth are to be punished with death, without consideration of confession or race." (more of those 'greedy' bankers and CEO's)
12) guaranteed government education through the University level.
13) universal health care
14) strong central government

Other major aspects of Nazi ideology include;
1) major anti-smoking stance
2) heavy "green" policies
3) holistic and "alternative" medicine promoted (ala` Mengele)
4) "whole grain" foods (VERY important)
5) physical fitness heavily stressed
6) vegetarian diet (VERY important)

Do ANY of those sound even remotely like any aspect of the GOP platform, or do they sound more like something from the DNC?

Slander and lies? Yup, that about sums up the modern Liberal specifically and the Democrat party in general.

Oh, and one other thing, do us all a favor and run a spell check on your posts before you hit the "Submit Reply" button. You write like a 5th grader, which really doesn't help your arguments.

[Woody]

Dr Mengeles insane experiments were supposedly about genetics not alternative medicene .Crystal therapists and other snake oil merchants are annoying and either idiots or con artists but not really comperable to an evil
such as Mengele.
The rest of the ideas are mostly blatant popularism there are no votes in not attacking halliburton or greedy ceos . Nazis were happy to pander to popularism ,but, so does any succesful political party at one time or the other.
Are you aware of Godwins law ?

[Buffa1oso1di3r]

1) major anti-smoking stance
2) heavy "green" policies
3) holistic and "alternative" medicine promoted (ala` Mengele)
4) "whole grain" foods (VERY important)
5) physical fitness heavily stressed
6) vegetarian diet (VERY important)

How is not smoking, eating whole grains, eating vegetables, and working out a bad thing? (Just a question)

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How is not smoking, eating whole grains, eating vegetables, and working out a bad thing? (Just a question)

There's nothing wrong with them if you CHOOSE to do them, but there's a LOT wrong with them when the government imposes them on you against your will. If I decide to smoke an entire carton of cigarettes and a box of cigars every day, eat nothing but meat (ever hear of the Atkins diet?), and the most strenuous exercise I ever engage in is 12 oz. curls, typing these words and working my jaw muscles, it's none of your business, and it sure as Hell isn't the governments business.

[Buffa1oso1di3r]

Ah, I see. Thanks for the clarification, sir.

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Dr Mengeles insane experiments were supposedly about genetics not alternative medicene .Crystal therapists and other snake oil merchants are annoying and either idiots or con artists but not really comperable to an evil
such as Mengele.
The rest of the ideas are mostly blatant popularism there are no votes in not attacking halliburton or greedy ceos . Nazis were happy to pander to popularism ,but, so does any succesful political party at one time or the other.
Are you aware of Godwins law ?

Tim, until such time as you prove capable of presenting something that comes close to a 6th grade comprehension and expression of the English language, this will be my last reply to you.

Mengele did a lot more than "genetic research", and your blatant attempts at equivocation clearly demonstrate that you have failed to watch any of the videos that are the primary topic of this thread, because if you had, you wouldn't have been foolish to mention Godwin's Law.

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Ah, I see. Thanks for the clarification, sir.

My pleasure. BTW, your sig line is hilarious!

[DoubleHelix]

Dr Mengeles insane experiments

There was nothing in the form of experiments by him. The man was sadistic, evil, and more than likely missing entire areas of gray matter. Some medical info may have been salvaged from what he did, but they were nothing more than acts of torture to reinforce his God complex.

[Buffa1oso1di3r]

There was nothing in the form of experiments by him. The man was sadistic, evil, and more than likely missing entire areas of gray matter. Some medical info may have been salvaged from what he did, but they were nothing more than acts of torture to reinforce his God complex.

Although this may be off-topic, what Menegel has nothing on what the "scientists" and "doctors" in Japan's Unit 731 did... and those guys weren't even tried with war crimes.

[Woody]

There's nothing wrong with them if you CHOOSE to do them, but there's a LOT wrong with them when the government imposes them on you against your will. If I decide to smoke an entire carton of cigarettes and a box of cigars every day, eat nothing but meat (ever hear of the Atkins diet?), and the most strenuous exercise I ever engage in is 12 oz. curls, typing these words and working my jaw muscles, it's none of your business, and it sure as Hell isn't the governments business.

If a sizeable amount of the population make them selves ill it becomes a problem for any government .How the government address that is open to
debate .

[Billyd]

If a sizeable amount of the population make them selves ill it becomes a problem for any government .How the government address that is open to
debate .

When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

With these words, 56 men essentially became traitors and risked all they had to renounce the legal government of thier time.

Now, if it makes 03, or for that matter anyone of us, happy to smoke an entire carton of cigarettes and a box of cigars every day, eat nothing but meat and so-on, then what right does the government have to alter that behaviour. We are not asking the government to supply us the tools of happiness, just to get our of our way and let us pursue those things that do make us happy.

We the People, want to the government to actually read the owner's manual and follow the instructions therein. However, since the sheeple themselves haven't read it and taken the effort to understand it, what can we expect from those we elect to "represent" us.

[HairyEyeball]

Key phrase, there, Billy: "...life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness (emphasis added)." Nowhere is there a 'right to happiness' - or to a luxury car, a big screen TV or any damned thing else. Nowhere is there a 'right' to not be offended, to be overpaid for the mere act of showing up for work, or to the property of those who have actually earned it.

All you have a 'right' to is the equality of opportunity, to pursue your own version of what you believe will make you 'happy' - within the confines of the rules of a civilized society.

[Billyd]

I think it safe to assume that if I, or anyone, were inclined to smoke a carton cigarettes, a box of cigars, and partake of an all meat diet, and that made me happy; then I have persued happiness and found it, in a manner of speaking.

My point being that I don't want, and I presume the Gentleman from North Carolina or yourself, the government interfering with your right to those pursuits. Whether I obtain happiness or not is completely up to me.

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If a sizeable amount of the population make them selves ill it becomes a problem for any government .How the government address that is open to
debate .

Really? Perhaps you'd be kind enough to direct me to the salient part of the United States Constitution that gives our government the authority to provide for the health and well being of the citizenry. The only 'debate' concerns the level of stupidity of the American sheeple who think that it IS the governments responsibility to intrude into the health care of the citizenry.

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i think it safe to assume that if i, or anyone, were inclined to smoke a carton cigarettes, a box of cigars, and partake of an all meat diet, and that made me happy; then i have persued happiness and found it, in a manner of speaking.

My point being that i don't want, and i presume the gentleman from north carolina or yourself, the government interfering with your right to those pursuits. Whether i obtain happiness or not is completely up to me.

PRE-ZACTLY! Unless or until the Constitution is amended to provide for governmental interference with the private sector, and specifically for the purposes of this discussion, our health care, they MAY NOT DO IT!

[Woody]

Really? Perhaps you'd be kind enough to direct me to the salient part of the United States Constitution that gives our government the authority to provide for the health and well being of the citizenry. The only 'debate' concerns the level of stupidity of the American sheeple who think that it IS the governments responsibility to intrude into the health care of the citizenry.

There is a problem with increasing amounts of obesity in the western world in general not just America .If your government has not the responsbility to do something about it who does ?

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There is a problem with increasing amounts of obesity in the western world in general not just America .If your government has not the responsbility to do something about it who does ?

You failed to answer the question little timmy, but I knew that when I asked it. There is no provision ANYWHERE in the Constitution of the United States that allows the government to in ANY way provide healthcare for anyone because that is the responsibility of each and every one of us individually.

Now, if you aren't responsible enough to take care of yourself, and you still need mommy and daddy to take care of you, then I would suggest that you move back home again, put on a diaper, suckle on a bottle, and leave the real world to the GROWN UPS.