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HairyEyeball
03-10-2009, 01:54 AM
Received the following this evening. I was going to title it 'Government Screwing Vets Again', but that would hardly qualify as 'news', would it?


Outrageous !!!!

It Is beginning! Another broken promise to our military veterans. They will pay for their health care (after having served 20 years or more) so that Obama can give FREE health insurance to illegal aliens and others who voted for him.

About Obama's Heath Care proposal on both Active Duty Military Families and Veterans.

Everyone,

My office just got word today that President Obama has proposed a plan to cut military health care benefits!

This is devastating news for the 99.9% Veterans and Active Duty members who are currently using health care benefits. The Congressional Budget Office has made public a proposal stating that Veterans (you know the men and women who have fought in wars and spent 20 plus years in the service) are now going to be paying up to 50% of their medical bill. Thats a big jump from paying little for the past 30 some odd years.

The biggest kicker is Active Duty Military (yep, I said Active Duty) will now be paying 10% of their total bill. They will now be billed for their kids visiting the doctor. Again, a big jump from being free !

Another benefit subject to change is VA medical benefits.

Everyone who is receiving a benefit from the VA for a service related injury will have to be re-assessed and the proposal states this will affect "90% of vets receiving VA benefits. Needless to say, today is the first time I have heard the Obama supporters in my office say "if this gets passed they will not continue to be a supporter".

Isn't this the candidate that just a few months ago was preaching to get health care coverage to ALL ? Isn't it ironic, moronic and outrageous to steal $53 Billion from vets and active duty military families so the Crack Head down the street will receive free medical coverage ?

If you're as upset as I am then write your elected officials so hopefully some of the dummies running this country see the light.

Here are some links to article.

http://soldiersmind.com/2009/01/07/proposed-tricare-cuts-could-cause-problems-for-military-families-and-retirees/

http://www.veteranstoday.com/modules.php?name=News&file=print&sid=4305

<http://www.veteranstoday.com/modules.php?name=News&amp;file=print&amp;sid=4305>

Feel free to Google if you're in dis-belief.

Below is a message from an Army General who also points out some links and ways how to contact your elected representative.

Subject: FW: TriCare for Life's Future
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 09:14:10 -0800

To All,

This is for real. The heavy assault has begun on Veterans'/Retirees' benefits to pay for other programs. The word on the street is that these indeed are a high priority of the Obama administration. The one most of interest to Retired Military is in Article 189. If approved by Congress the first assault wave would hit the beaches in 2011 and would hit hard. It would initiate cost sharing to require retirees to pay the first $525 of medical cost and 50% of the next $4,725 for a first year cost of $2,888 per person. It would be indexed to increase with inflation.
Clyde
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For those of you who are covered by TFL you will want to pay attention to what BG Bob Clements has surfaced about the future of TFL. If you know of anyone who is Retired Military, please forward this on to them. I don't know how many of you partake of the TriCare for Life program but here is a very interesting note on the subject. Seems as though our President has placed a priority on cutting it out of the budget as a means to provide funding for those things he promised during the campaign. In any case, on page 189 of the Congressional Budget Office report, see the note below on how to get to that spot, there is a strong recommendation to eventually eliminate the program as it is "too expensive."

I would ask that you contact your elected officials and register your strong opposition to the elimination of this program. Just another move to slight those of us who dedicated much of our adult lives to the defense of our country. Thanks for listening.

Heads-up from BG Bob Clements, USAF Ret (P38 Bob) The following has been added to the Congressional Budget Office Web Site
http://www.cbo.gov/

a. Budget, Options, Volume 1: Health Care

(http://www.cbo.gov/doc.cfm?index=9925

For those who have never opened one of these web sites from OMB :

1. double click on the above URL

2. click on PDF

3. click on the binoculars

4. do a search for TFL

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"Now here it is folks and I will guarantee if you sit around on your behind and do nothing about it as they bring these options forward this coming year, you will lose one of the best health care benefits that the Medicare eligible retired military have. It is short of the promises made that we fought so hard for back in the late 90s and early 2000s but it is still the best health care program that anyone in the United States has, bar none.

People who are professionals always look for the channel of least resistance when it comes to cutting money out of the Federal and DOD budget. I can tell you this straight on, military retirees are one of those channels of least resistance noted for sitting around, doing nothing, and waiting for ole Joe to do it for them. You had better wake up. Your medical benefits are prime target. If you lose them, you have nobody to blame but yourself. Let me repeat that ... you have nobody to blame but yourself.

The way to secure your benefits is to write to your members of Congress and to keep writing and writing and writing. ONCE IS NOT ENOUGH!! Keep repeating the above statement until you are blue in the face.

Now I'm going to make one more statement to all of you younger people out there who are not yet eligible for TriCare for Life. HEALTH CARE WILL EVENTUALLY BECOME THE DOMINATING FACTOR IN YOUR LIFE..... Remember that . . . . it will impact you big time with the utmost in cruelty unless you are fortunate enough to die from a heart attack . . . or get run over by a truck.

Now, I am going to attach AGAIN exactly what OMB has in store for military retirees using TFL. This source is directly from OMB and is not something that I have dreamed up. They are telling you exactly what they are going to do with your benefits. If you do nothing, this is what you will get. The service organizations are aware of this and will put up a fight but, they will need your help and can't do it by themselves.

I hope this makes it clear as to what you can expect if you do nothing.

In spite of the MTFs' (Military Treatment Facility) need to get patients back to keep their doctors busy and the hospitals from going to clinic status, these people from OMB would employ a means to keep retirees from using MTF facilities by charging them a fee for services. How dumb can you get. Even if you are an Obama lover, and believe that changeth cometh, TFL option from OMB will not go away. They need the money they spend on you for other programs for people who produce nothing but votes to keep their boss in office.


To say this should torque your jaws down tighter than the manifold on a nitro-stoked Hemi may be somewhat of an understatement, but how ticked off you may be won't make a small pimple on a rat's @$$ if you don't let your hired help in D.C. know what you think of the measure - and unlike voting (except, of course, in Chicago), it's perfectly acceptable to do so 'early and often' - and then do it again.

Rabbit
03-10-2009, 02:57 AM
Screwing hard-working Americans, as well as veterans, has become a far too familiar trend for far too long. Not only will this be giving illegal scum access to OUR health care, the "stimulus package" will benefit their sorry arses as well now that the E-verify system is going all to hell in most places.

CAPSmith
03-10-2009, 08:50 AM
I just gave my representatives a good solid piece of my mind, again. I wonder if they get tired of hearing from me?

SGM
03-10-2009, 02:27 PM
Well I just got done writing my Senators and the phoney Boondogle we have in the White House.

Who knows, if enough of of get in and do something, maybe Hussain Obamshit will do something.

CAPSmith
03-10-2009, 02:31 PM
On items like this I always like including the phrase, "I promise you, I will do everything in my power to ensure that you will never be elected again" at the end. I seem to get responses quicker that way.

SGM
03-10-2009, 02:48 PM
Hairy,
As a farrier, I am a member of a farrier forum where there are many vets. I copied your post and took it over there. I figure we need to get the word out!!

SGM
03-21-2009, 01:19 AM
I hear Obama has decided not to charge us for care of our war wounds. Guess we'll have to see what else happens.

rockymartin21
04-10-2009, 04:12 PM
Like you said this isn't "news" anymore. I guess we'll just have to sit around and see what else happens....

JohnP
04-10-2009, 05:40 PM
Like you said this isn't "news" anymore. I guess we'll just have to sit around and see what else happens....

Rockymartin21,

Welcome to the forum, as you appear to be new, please go to the new member's forum and introduce yourself.

Have you experience with any of the services or are you an enthusiast?


Thanks,

JohnP