Rifle Training.

[Drill for life]

We are having our Rifle Training this thursday. I have not done this since my LET 1 year and probably won't this year either.

[C/SSGT Seifer]

By rifle training do you mean marksmanship or drill? Is this a battalion thing?

[Drill for life]

Marksmandship and yes it is a battalion thing we do it every year.

[Delta Farce]

Good luck, Just remember to hold you breath before each shot and don't shoot until your sure you'll get a bulls eye. Most importantly though, take your time fast shooters usually don't do well, with a few exceptions.

[grunt0311]

Its not "hold your breath", use the natural respiratory pause. If you breathe normal, you naturally pause between exhale and the next inhale. That way everything is relaxed, holding your breath in can make the shot more difficult. Another important factor is your natural point of aim.

From my Primary Marksmanship Instructor in boot camp: "All you have to remember is BRASS: Breathe, Relax, Slow, Steady Squeeze; sight alignment, sight picture, and skeletal support and you are golden"


Any more questions about it, just let me know.

[C./Fields]

I hope I get better at this over time cause we already had marksmanship training and I didn't do so well.

[C/SSGT Seifer]

That sounds pretty fun, why wouldn't you do it? Maybe I am just saying this since we don't have a rifle team in my school, but I would jump on that opportunity if I had it.

[-BuLL-]

Its not "hold your breath", use the natural respiratory pause.
From my Primary Marksmanship Instructor in boot camp: "All you have to remember is BRASS: Breathe, Relax, Slow, Steady Squeeze; sight alignment, sight picture, and skeletal support and you are golden"


We were taught this as well. That you have a split second of time at the top and bottom of your breaths and this is the time to shoot. As far as the BRASS, that's helpful, thanks for sharing the tip.

[grunt0311]

My pleasure, sharing knowledge is what I live for.
:)

[Machine]

Lay off the nicotine and caffeine if you partake of such stimulants.

[grunt0311]

Lay off the nicotine and caffeine if you partake of such stimulants.

Good idea as well

(however i shoot with a dip in 95% of the time. But I am of legal age to use tobacco products.)

[DerRekruit]

Having shot competition (Benchrest- Bolt action) for a while, as well as hitting up the range, I find that I, personally, have a better "grouping" when I hold my breath during shots, moreso than utalizing the natrual "pause" in breating.

[grunt0311]

Having shot competition (Benchrest- Bolt action) for a while, as well as hitting up the range, I find that I, personally, have a better "grouping" when I hold my breath during shots, moreso than utalizing the natrual "pause" in breating.

Having shot on ranges for score many times, and not caring about groups other times, the natural pause has helped. Especially with the CMP part of the shoot, which is the most likely to occur. You won't have time to hold your breath in combat, why practice like that?

[DerRekruit]

You won't have time to hold your breath in combat, why practice like that?

I won't be shooting a 1 Ft. square white target at 450 Ft. away either, so why shoot at all?

If you can get some Op. For., I'd be more than happy to train like I am in combat, not like I'm trying to actually hit something to win a Competition.

As far as grouping is concerned, that tells you of consistency of fire, something that I think would be helpful in a combat situation... But I havent gone over there, so I wouldn't know for sure.

[grunt0311]

Cadet, consistency of fire means firing the same way in MANY different scenarios. Which is why there is still the KD (known distance) range as a part of the USMC Rifle Qual, but I'm not here to debate which is the best way to shoot. I'm here to impart some knowledge, so take it or leave it, its the tried and true method.

At 500 YARDS, your natural respiratory pause will help you. 450 Ft is a cakewalk.

[DerRekruit]

At 500 YARDS, your natural respiratory pause will help you. 450 Ft is a cakewalk.

Speaking of firing strictly with iron sights, 50 yds. isn't that much of a change, wether it's 450-500 Yds. or speaking of Hunters Benchrest--LongRange-Scoped, 850-900 Yds.
(Thanks for catching me on the yds.--Ft. thing... I missed it...)

[grunt0311]

Why don't you post in the introductions forum, so we can see some of your credentials. I am curious.

[DerRekruit]

Where is the introductions forum?
What "credentials" are you looking for?

[grunt0311]

http://gruntsmilitary.com/board/forumdisplay.php?f=2

^^ right there. Credentials? How long have you shot competition, maybe just a general introduction before you start giving advice. Your service Dogtag is blank, so I can surmise from your signature that your are a Cadet Sergeant Major and because of how you wrote it Army ROTC/JROTC, not sure. I'm curious what age level of a person I am dealing with, if its even worth my time.

[DerRekruit]

Done... I didn't see that... I've never felt the need to do that on any other forums, but I guess it is a matter of courtesy.

[grunt0311]

Thanks! Always nice to know what kind of background the person you are conversing with has.

[Ben Shotalot]

From my Primary Marksmanship Instructor in boot camp: "All you have to remember is BRASS: Breathe, Relax, Slow, Steady Squeeze; sight alignment, sight picture, and skeletal support and you are golden"

I was taught BRASS in Boot Camp but it was "Breath, Relax, Aim, Squeeze, Shoot."

I use the natural pause when shooting. Holding your breath can screw up your natural body alignment. However, I do impose a quick pause in the middle of exhaling before taking a shot when in rapid fire mode. Sort of like this: Inhale, start exhale, pause, shoot, finish exhale, then start all over again. You keep breathing while consistently putting rounds down range and on target.

:recon:

[USFreak]

Well I'm on the rifle team, and even if you don't ever have to do it again do it with all your heart and concentration.

[DSEddie]

In Army BCT we teach the four fundamentals. Steady position, sight picture, breathing, and trigger squeeze. Improper sight alignment, not getting the same sight picture, and breathing are the biggest contributors to a long day at the range.

[soccermark23]

In Army BCT we teach the four fundamentals. Steady position, sight picture, breathing, and trigger squeeze. Improper sight alignment, not getting the same sight picture, and breathing are the biggest contributors to a long day at the range.

Same in my Air Force unit. I'm sure a fair amount of that travels over because a lot of our Security Forces troops are prior service Army.